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From: "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
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Subject: Re: What Did You Watch? 2024-03-09 (Saturday)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 20:40:53 -0700
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On 3/12/24 7:27 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

> Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>> On 3/12/24 6:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 3/12/24 11:12 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>> Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> . . .
> 
>>>>>> Because SD looks like s**t on an 4k TV.
>>>>>> IOW, not just the "FX", but *everything*!!
> 
>>>>>> I would have figured by 2002 that most everything was filming in HD -
>>>>>> "...Jules Verne" had done so 3 years prior, and even shows on The WB,
>>>>>> like "Babes of Prey" from the year previous, were filmed in HD.
> 
>>>>>> But I guess it took until c.2005 before everything, even stuff like
>>>>>> "Tracker", was filmed in HD.
> 
>>>>> Huh?
> 
>>>> IOW, even through 2005, a lot of stuff was still filmed in SD. It wasn't
>>>> until 2005 that even low-rent stuff like "Tracker" was filmed in HD.
> 
>>> Filmed in SD? That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works.
> 
>>> The premiere color Western television series for the late 1950s and
>>> early 1960s were filmed on 35 mm film, just like movies. Some were in
>>> Technicolor. Even b&w filmed tv series were filmed on 35 mm movie film.
>   
>>> By the mid to late '60s, they were using cheaper Eastman Color, which
>>> faded after three years or so.
> 
>>> I just looked up Tracker: Super 16 mm Arriflex system. That's why it
>>> looked like crap.
> 
>>> That's a method of television production that got worse.
> 
>>> I'm not sure what we count as the first tv series videoed, not filmed,
>>> that didn't look like crap. Not The Secret Life of Jules Verne.
> 
>> "CSI"?
> 
> CSI was filmed for 16:9, I think from the beginning.
> 
> Various Panavision cameras, 35 mm film
> 
>> "Babes of Prey"?
> 
> 4:3
> 
> Arricam ST and Arricam 435. Both are 35 mm film systems.
> 
>> I doubt either were "filmed", but both were HD.
> 
> Both were filmed. Ian, you're not listening.

Try not to be tedious, Adam. I was listening. I just don't know off-hand 
which shows were filmed and which were shot on tape.

For instance, I didn't list "Smallville", as I am pretty sure that show 
was filmed.

I can't think of a good (HD) "videotape" show. Most likely it would be a 
sitcom (multicam). Was there an early 2000s sitcom that looks decent in 
HD even today?