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Subject: Re: Codes sent by text message
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 07:42:51 +0100
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On 14.03.24 21:13, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-03-13 21:00, Chris wrote:
>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-13 09:11, Chris wrote:
>>>> Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 10.03.24 10:44, Bob Henson wrote:
>>>>>> Newyana2 wrote:
>>>>>>> At one point I played with crypto a bit. I had to upload a picture
>>>>>>> ID (drivers license), as well as giving them my email address and
>>>>>>> access to my bank account. As I recall I think they sent a voice
>>>>>>> message code to my landline, which is a lot more security in terms of
>>>>>>> proof of ID than a cellphone. The lamdline is registered to -- and
>>>>>>> wired to -- a physical address.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They will struggle in the UK soon, then. All landlines disappear by the end
>>>>>> of 2025  - there will only be VoIP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hardly ever read so much nonsense. We know Newyana does not have a cell
>>>>> phone but he or she wants to have a big mouth in technical groups
>>>>> discussing mobile technology.
>>>>>
>>>>> For you: IP-telephone lines are landlines. Landlines are not what you
>>>>> think they are. The backend is even in the UK ip-based for years.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have evidence for that? It's true that UK telephony has been digital
>>>> for a long time within the BT network, but that doesn't mean it's
>>>> internet/ip-based.
>>>
>>> I don't know about UK, but here in Spain all clients on fibre have a
>>> VoIP system, hidden. At the home, there is a device called ONT (Optical
>>> network terminal), which can be integrated on the router, that converts
>>> the phone over IP signals to an RJ-11 where we connect our traditional
>>> phone terminals.
>>>
>>> In fact, companies hide the VoIP credentials so that connecting a VoIP
>>> phone instead is not trivial.
>>>
>>> The stated goal is to remove all copper exchanges, migrating everybody
>>> to fibre (or some form of radio). The buildings can then be sold, they
>>> are in the city centres and are worth a packet.
>>>
>>> My understanding is that the UK is doing more or less the same, and many
>>> countries are on the same road. Which means that a lot of the current
>>> phone network is no longer circuit switched.
>>
>> I'm aware of that, but that's the recent (domestic) move away from copper
>> lines and VOIP.
>>
>> Jörg's comment was about the backhaul being ip-based for a much longer
>> period.
> 
> It is so in his country, to my understanding.
> 
> The Swiss I know have a tendency to think that the changes applied in
> their country have also been applied elsewhere :-D
> 
> Like no TV over the air.

Very Old Style! We use satellite or fibre-based IP-TV. More reliable and 
much better quality.

BTW: Classical TV is a thing of the past.


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