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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
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Subject: Re: What Did You Watch? 2024-03-15 (Friday)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 23:29:15 -0000 (UTC)
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Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>On 3/16/2024 1:40 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

>>>The Frighteners (blu-ray) 1996 horror comedy directed by Peter Jackson
>>>and starring Michael J. Fox as a conman who uses his ability to see and
>>>talk to ghosts to con people until he stumbles upon the ghost of a
>>>serial killer who hasn't let being dead slow him down.

>>I sort of like this movie, but it falls apart in the middle. I've read
>>that the version distributed in the United States is heavily edited of
>>the New Zealand version. I've never seen what Peter Jackson intended. I
>>just looked; there's a director's cut that's 12 minutes longer. Also,
>>there are two different DVDs for home video, the second with
>>inferior audio.

>I was hoping for a 4K upgrade.  I heard one was on the way over a year 
>ago but it never materialized.  At least not in the U.S.

>>Any idea what version you watched?

>I watched the director's cut.  I have no idea what was put back in.  I 
>didn't listen to the commentary.  I do remember being less than 
>impressed when I saw the movie in the theater.  Over time I've more or 
>less forced myself to like it.  But part of that might be I've been 
>watching the director's cut.  I think it also helps if you go in knowing 
>what to expect.

>Like you said, I sort of like it.  I honestly don't understand why I 
>don't like it more.  Everything about it really screams great movie, 
>then I actually watch it and the best I can muster is it's OK I guess.

>Now that I think about it, maybe the problem is there are no likable 
>characters in the movie.  I never thought about it before now, but the 
>movie really has no one to care about.  The movie probably would have 
>been significantly better if Michael J. Fox's character was likable. 
>Right from the start his character is being a total jerk to his ghost 
>helpers and he's just in it to rip people off.  And now that I think 
>about it some more, the people he targets are basically widows and 
>orphans!  He has barely any character growth beyond that.  I know by the 
>end he's supposedly a nice guy, but the movie never justifies that 
>change.  It just happens because reasons.

Those are very good points.

His girlfriend's character isn't established and nothing we see tells us
why they are together. That Jake Busey grabs her doesn't work as well
because he doesn't seem to care enough about her.

I really wanted more from the Jeffrey Combs scenes because, hey, he
saved a lousy first season Babylon 5 script, and the obsequious Weyoun
on Deep Space Nine (not to mention liquidator Brunt). But his character
just came across as weird without motive.

>Who was a mid 90s contemporary who cold have played the part but made 
>the character likable?  Brad Pitt?  Johnny Depp?  Keanu Reeves?  Will 
>Smith?  John Cusack?

Heh

It was the script.

I also read that this was in post production for close to a year and a
half because of the massive amount of time for effects in those days
that are probably created today with a couple of keystrokes.