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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Some traffic stats Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 06:35:09 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: <ut6h0u$3fk84$1@dont-email.me> References: <ussh2h$10uhk$1@dont-email.me> <ussvnf$142oh$1@dont-email.me> <ust0vb$1490h$2@dont-email.me> <ustspf$1dksi$1@dont-email.me> <mi25vipm9o19j1sgqhqlkbfnfk6q8s1t4b@4ax.com> <usvos4$1riuq$1@dont-email.me> <haq6vip4kvbbb54u27jnesi4mgh1elaahk@4ax.com> <usvq04$1rp3m$1@dont-email.me> <ut1bj3$1j2ae$5@dont-email.me> <6gc8vihei08uve9r36npfflj37acqldnur@4ax.com> <ut2ugs$2ikeo$2@dont-email.me> <38iavih57uuqb6n5j42012qftgjqsbh2jb@4ax.com> <ut4fe0$2vf1h$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:35:10 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5407ec36e83f8c42b983182ceeb8107a"; logging-data="3657988"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+bPVRyHbPB1kJYTCLeApUxYWiZ5KKsAkk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:6jfYpWqSegFklXIuR+aRj+qHoho= In-Reply-To: <ut4fe0$2vf1h$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3821 On 3/16/2024 11:55 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: > On 3/16/2024 3:35 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >> On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 22:01:00 -0400, Frank Krygowski >> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> Perhaps the concept of "per mile" is too complicated for some readers? >> >> <EYEROLL> I will repeat for those who are too simple minded to >> understand it the first time... >> >> There many, many more than twice the number of pedestrians than >> bicyclists, Dummy, and yet the number of pedestrian accidents is less >> than twice the number of bicycling accidents. >> Case in point: >> There are more people hurt or killed by way of bicycle accidents than >> there are for mountain climbers, so by Krygowski's standards, >> bicycling is more dangerous than mountain climbing. >> >> Furthermore, the previous claim of comparing the mileage is also a >> ridiculously stupid way to evaluate the statistics given the total >> amount of time the personas engaged in the activities are vulnerable >> to having an accident. > > Ah! The Florida bike path denizen seems to be dimly realizing that > different metrics are possible! That is, one can measure relative > "danger" per participant, per hour, per mile, per trip, etc. And perhaps > he may someday realize the fundamental metric might be measurement of > benefit vs. detriment - for example, does an activity confer more or > less health, more or fewer years of life, etc. > > Rational intelligent people could discuss the merits of these metrics. > But the Florida bike path denizen wouldn't qualify. > > Still, I always wonder what makes an avid cyclist argue so strongly that > riding a bicycle is terribly dangerous? > > I think it's fear. More specifically, if a man "proves" that riding > anywhere but on a bike path (and while carrying a gun "for protection"!) > is so, so dangerous, he feels a bit better about his own timidity. > > Likewise, saying that bicycling requires no knowledge or skill beyond > balancing makes him feel a bit better about his near-total ignorance. > > It's a variation of a common theme: "Nobody needs to know math! I been a > successful garbage man for years and I ain't never passed a math class!" > much like kunich, the floriduh dumbass reads what he he _wants_ the data to say, rather than what it actually does say.