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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: Olcott has proved that the biggest number is 5. Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 22:54:52 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: <utb5qt$lekr$1@dont-email.me> References: <utai5u$e1jp$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 04:54:54 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a78f588840fadcc0c8b63bd5cb45ec84"; logging-data="703131"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/iv7GP5fTgFoDJNh3+MQNiN5HAiAxQcbc=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:KHcmefDU7u69QQKqaGTEl6R+dJE= In-Reply-To: <utai5u$e1jp$3@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2314 On 3/18/2024 5:19 PM, immibis wrote: > Other people may say that 6 is bigger than 5, but 6 is designed to > contradict that 5 is the biggest number so this is incorrect. > > Everyone is saying that because 5 did need to prevent numbers being > bigger than it to prevent 6 from being bigger than it this proves that > it never needed to prevent numbers being bigger than it because it can > rely on the fact there are no numbers bigger than it thus never needed > to prevent them. > > > The original biggest number criteria has the impossible requirement > that 5 must be bigger than numbers which are bigger than it. > Requiring 5 to be clairvoyant is an unreasonable requirement. > *The criteria shown below eliminate the requirement of clairvoyance* > > (a) If biggest number X correctly eliminates numbers Y bigger than X > until X correctly determines there would be no bigger numbers unless > they were eliminated then > > *X is the biggest number* > Means X does a correct elimination of Y until X correctly matches the > biggest number behaviour pattern. That's a very interesting take on the jackass' thinking. (I use the word "thinking" advisedly - perhaps should say "low-level neural sparks" instead.) -- Jeff Barnett