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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?= <hugybear@gmx.net> Newsgroups: uk.comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems Subject: Re: USB hubs, printers, Java, and more seemingly broken by macOS 14.4 update Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 21:48:21 +0100 Organization: Camembert Normand au Lait Cru Lines: 45 Message-ID: <uti6el$2e0k7$1@dont-email.me> References: <MsicnSKc_q3URmT4nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@earthlink.com> <l5v7ntFan7nU1@mid.individual.net> <utfmmv$1o002$1@dont-email.me> <l61aflFkk5cU1@mid.individual.net> <uti161$2csmb$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 20:48:21 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dba6db4388196bfeed5489c8cfd80a55"; logging-data="2556551"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/o1Dlst0b+yU1ofejmOAS/tPKZglQymq8=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:115.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/115.8.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:BIavGEORrPVO8QF5rsT6S7wR6GQ= Content-Language: de-CH, en-GB In-Reply-To: <uti161$2csmb$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3388 On 21.03.24 20:18, Chris wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> On 2024-03-20, OrangeFish <OrangeFish@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> On 2024-03-20 00:41, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>> On 2024-03-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> :( >>>> >>>> All of our USB hubs, printers, and more are working just fine with >>>> multiple different model Macs running 14.4. What are we doing wrong? >>>> >>>> Rather than being a gullible rube who blindly believes every >>>> sensational clickbait hit piece you read, you may want to consider >>>> that the people who post these articles have a monetary interest in >>>> making relatively small issues appear to be larger and more wide >>>> spread than they actually are - because getting more clicks literally >>>> makes them more money. >>> >>> Ars Technica is fairly respectable. The author of the article states >>> that his machine was not affected but others are affected (with links >>> to Apple and reddit). >> >> I didn't claim there is no issue - just that media has an incentive to >> sensationalize it. Even Ars Technica wants more clicks, because it >> literally pays their bills. And it's a well-known fact that news about >> Apple gets clicks, and negative news about Apple gets the most clicks. >> >> BTW, the OP, Ant, posted about this with a frowny face - but I can >> virtually guarantee you he isn't having these problems on his own Macs. >> > > TBF Oracle themselves are advising against updating to 14.4. There's a > detailed explanation here, apparently there was quite a significant change > after the release candidate: > https://blogs.oracle.com/java/post/java-on-macos-14-4 Oracle is not really a relevant source for a decision to avoid or execute Mac-updates. They should try to get their act together. If someone in the private domain thinks he or she needs java, fine. It can look a bit different in a corporate environment. -- "Ave Caesar! Morituri te salutant!"