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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> Newsgroups: uk.comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems Subject: Re: USB hubs, printers, Java, and more seemingly broken by macOS 14.4 update Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 13:31:09 +0100 Organization: Camembert Normand au Lait Cru Lines: 49 Message-ID: <utjtmd$2toit$1@dont-email.me> References: <MsicnSKc_q3URmT4nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@earthlink.com> <l5v7ntFan7nU1@mid.individual.net> <utfmmv$1o002$1@dont-email.me> <l61aflFkk5cU1@mid.individual.net> <uti161$2csmb$1@dont-email.me> <uti6el$2e0k7$1@dont-email.me> <utje6m$2q9o4$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 12:31:09 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a523b074d172587d94a0efcc615c46a3"; logging-data="3072605"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/G2OBP55CT0lOI6kJL57QggtSWvx8DQKo=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:115.0) Gecko/20100101 Betterbird/115.8.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:66xxXwZOosLbWxGuZ2W9TYhodP8= In-Reply-To: <utje6m$2q9o4$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: de-CH, en-GB Bytes: 3606 On 22.03.24 09:06, Chris wrote: > Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote: >> On 21.03.24 20:18, Chris wrote: >>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>>> On 2024-03-20, OrangeFish <OrangeFish@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>> On 2024-03-20 00:41, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>>> On 2024-03-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> :( >>>>>> >>>>>> All of our USB hubs, printers, and more are working just fine with >>>>>> multiple different model Macs running 14.4. What are we doing wrong? >>>>>> >>>>>> Rather than being a gullible rube who blindly believes every >>>>>> sensational clickbait hit piece you read, you may want to consider >>>>>> that the people who post these articles have a monetary interest in >>>>>> making relatively small issues appear to be larger and more wide >>>>>> spread than they actually are - because getting more clicks literally >>>>>> makes them more money. >>>>> >>>>> Ars Technica is fairly respectable. The author of the article states >>>>> that his machine was not affected but others are affected (with links >>>>> to Apple and reddit). >>>> >>>> I didn't claim there is no issue - just that media has an incentive to >>>> sensationalize it. Even Ars Technica wants more clicks, because it >>>> literally pays their bills. And it's a well-known fact that news about >>>> Apple gets clicks, and negative news about Apple gets the most clicks. >>>> >>>> BTW, the OP, Ant, posted about this with a frowny face - but I can >>>> virtually guarantee you he isn't having these problems on his own Macs. >>>> >>> >>> TBF Oracle themselves are advising against updating to 14.4. There's a >>> detailed explanation here, apparently there was quite a significant change >>> after the release candidate: >>> https://blogs.oracle.com/java/post/java-on-macos-14-4 >> >> Oracle is not really a relevant source for a decision to avoid or >> execute Mac-updates. They should try to get their act together. > > Eh, what? Oracle own Java. They're the most relevant source of information > for java issues. I did not say anything else. Learn to read and understand. Oracle is irrelevant for Mac-users. -- "Manus manum lavat."