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From: olcott <polcott2@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Can any pathological input thwart a simulating abort decider?
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 14:10:08 -0500
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On 3/22/2024 1:58 PM, wij wrote:
> On Fri, 2024-03-22 at 13:41 -0500, olcott wrote:
>> 01 int D(ptr x)  // ptr is pointer to int function
>> 02 {
>> 03   int Halt_Status = H(x, x);
>> 04   if (Halt_Status)
>> 05     HERE: goto HERE;
>> 06   return Halt_Status;
>> 07 }
>> 08
>> 09 void main()
>> 10 {
>> 11   H(D,D);
>> 12 }
>>
>> H is a simulating abort decider that supposed to
>> correctly determine whether or not it needs to abort
>> the simulation of any pathological inputs that are
>> attempting to thwart this abort decision.
>>
>> H must abort every simulated input that would not
>> otherwise halt to prevent its own non-termination.
>>
>> It is a self-evident verified fact that every H(D,D)
>> that decides to abort its simulated D(D) is correct
>> in doing so because this does prevent its own
>> non-termination.
>>
> 
> In you program listing above (1) H can only return 0, it does not determine anything.

I never mentioned any return value and return values are out-of-scope
for this post.

In this post we are only looking for a counter-example that can thwart
simulating abort decider H.

It is a self-evidently correct verified fact that every implementation
of H(D,D) that aborts its simulation to prevent its otherwise non-
termination is correct in doing so.

> (2) and, H is empty, there is no code to determine "pathological input", and who
> decide "pathological", you or program?
> 

It is stipulated that every implementation of H(D,D) simulates
its input D(D).

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Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
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