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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: No fault cell phone law Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 10:54:40 +1300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 77 Message-ID: <utnj30$3sqpj$1@dont-email.me> References: <r5prckx0d.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <utngne$3s9p8$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5a984f0d5d85315821ad0dbe233910a6"; logging-data="4090675"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18C4ITLjA4wT8SIxUPnFyFUIcqWC09g508=" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:iRPGSPkoOBqKSsPjxGpoGDRc9bk= Bytes: 4601 On 2024-03-23 21:14:20 +0000, The Real Bev said: > On 3/20/24 8:47 PM, Andrew wrote: >> Hank Rogers wrote on Wed, 20 Mar 2024 20:54:32 -0500 : >> >>> Fiddling with a phone while driving is illegal most places >> >> Plenty of things are illegal, where in California, it's now illegal to NOT >> compost your food waste, but what does it mean to be illegal to you anyway? >> >> New Law Gives California Green Light to Fine Residents >> Who Don't Recycle Food Waste >> https://californiainsider.com/california-news/new-law-gives-california-green-light-to-fine-residents-who-dont-recycle-food-waste-5579378 >> >> >>> Maybe even prove how safe it is. >> >> Been there. Done that. >> <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=1681&group=news.admin.peering#> >> > > FWIW. Here we're expected to put our food waste in plastic bags, tie > them closed, and deposit the little bags on top of our yard waste in > the yard waste container. There was much discussion about the nature > of these plastic bags and whether or not we were required to buy > compostable plastic bags. > > The yard waste containers are picked up by a grabber-truck and the > contents dumped into the truck. Supposedly the bags are removed by > employees in hazmat suits where the yard waste trucks dump their > contents. They are then transported... somewhere... something. > > I think unicorn poop may be involved, but I have no actual cite for > that. I can't imagine that the little bags aren't completely torn up > by rolling around in a truck full of twigs, logs, etc. but what do I > know? > > I'm sure that this works as well as plastic-recycling, aren't you? Last year here in New Zealand, the Auckland City Council delivered little green hand-carried bins to every house. These are meant to be used to put food waste in and collected from the kerbside each week. And, as with most of these greenie knee-jerk reaction ideas, it's a complete and utter waste of time and money. 1. It was forced on every household and the cost is an added fee in the household city taxes ... whether or not you wanted the bin, whether or not you use the bin. So those who already compost their own food waste are paying for a service they don't need or want. (For comparison, the general rubbish collection is paid for via tags you buy to put on the bin which, if not stolen beforehand, are taken off when the bin is emptied. The recycling wheelie bins are emptied for "free", although would be included in increased household city taxes.) 2. The bins are small and light (especially when empty), so they blow all over the street in windy weather. 3. Houses now put out two bins every week (three every second week when the recycling is collected) on the same day in the collection area, meaning the kerbside and/or pavement is covered in bins, and then when empited many are left on the road. 4. There are presumably* now two rubbish trucks going around doing the collecting every week on the same day. Three trucks on every second week when the recycling wheelie bin also goes out. (* I've never bothered to see if both the general rubbish and food waste is simply dumped into the same collection truck, but recycling does go in a separate truck to general rubbish.) 5. All the food waste is *supposedly* trucked down south to another city, three hours drive away, for processing into whatever they use it for: biogas, fertiliser, etc. (The same company processess the food waste from all over New Zealand's North Island.)