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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: immibis <news@immibis.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Categorically exhaustive reasoning applied to the decision to abort Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:34:33 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 21 Message-ID: <uto3fp$8h3$1@dont-email.me> References: <utlf69$39fl1$1@dont-email.me> <utlff5$3997r$3@dont-email.me> <utlgg1$2o1am$20@i2pn2.org> <utlirq$3dsl2$2@dont-email.me> <utmo5e$2plc2$8@i2pn2.org> <utmqu6$3msk5$1@dont-email.me> <utnmqm$3tjdn$1@dont-email.me> <utnoks$3ttm3$2@dont-email.me> <uto0b9$3vihs$2@dont-email.me> <uto2b5$3vtt8$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 02:34:34 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dc19b0d8e1a5b687d7f38e52c379aafd"; logging-data="8739"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/+gCHT19H+l1h12ZLh5wPJ" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:lXkqs82lWalLykFjjZhNAU4FIKI= In-Reply-To: <uto2b5$3vtt8$4@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2035 On 24/03/24 03:15, olcott wrote: > On 3/23/2024 8:40 PM, immibis wrote: >> On 24/03/24 00:29, olcott wrote: >>> On 3/23/2024 5:58 PM, immibis wrote: >>>> On 23/03/24 16:02, olcott wrote: >>>>> (b) H(D,D) that DOES abort its simulation is correct >>>>> (ABOUT THIS ABORT DECISION) >>>>> because it would halt and all deciders must always halt. >>>> >>>> To be a decider it has to give an answer. >>>> >>>> To be a halt decider it has to give an answer that is the same as >>>> whether the direct execution of its input would halt. >>> >>> That would entail that >> >> Tough shit. That is the requirement. > > I proved otherwise in the parts you erased. You proved that the requirement is not actually the requirement?