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From: Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: This FOSS Thang :-)
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 09:04:10 -0400
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-hh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 3/23/24 8:29 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>> 
>>> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 15:43:01 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>>> Once installed, Linux takes much less time to "get ready" than Windows
>>>> does, in my experience.  Only a ridiculous person would complain about
>>>> the small amount of time needed to install and configure a new
>>>> installation.
>>>
>>> I think the 'get ready' time is equivalent. I've got my catalog of stuff I
>>> install most of which are cross platform.
>>>
>>> Full disclosure: I've never installed Windows since I upgraded a 3.1
>>> laptop to 3.11 Workgroup.  At work IT drops off the new Windows box or I
>>> buy something with Windows pre-installed. My builds have all went straight
>>> to Linux.
> Same here:  for Windows, everything was turnkey by IT, including the 
> installation of all relevant Apps.  All I had to do was to log in and 
> walk through a couple of settings in MS-Outlook to link into the host 
> computer.  OTOH, if it wasn't a Windows box, it was 100% DIY, but also 
> came with instructions of various command line modifications that IT 
> security required...a royal PITA.
>
>>> When IT drops off a bare metal box they leave rapidly. Linux is strictly
>>> 'don't ask, don't tell' for them.
>> 
>> Every laptop the government handed me for project usage immediately got Linux
>> on it. The main downside was that we had to set up the CAC and handle security
>> updates ourselves.  Me, the Russian guy, and a couple other dudes.
>
> I recall using PKard, a third party CAC reader, during a time when MacOS 
> didn't natively support stuff.  It was learn-as-you-go, since it was up 
> to local IT groups to decide if they were going to support anything 
> non-Windows.  Fortunately, MacOS now natively supports CAC readers 
> again, so there's one fewer hoop to have to jump through.

One of the gummint guys on-site used a Mac.

By the way, it's not the CAC itself, but loading all the certs without the aid
of Windows crapware that was an issue.

    https://militarycac.com/linux.htm

The drivers themselves were installable via the package manager.

I used Debian for a long time until I got an email saying I had to use a RedHat
product.  But CentOS fit the bill.

-- 
Q:	What's hard going in and soft and sticky coming out?
A:	Chewing gum.