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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 17:10:34 -0400 Organization: Peripheral Visions Lines: 20 Message-ID: <utq4sc$je9i$1@dont-email.me> References: <qHqKnNhkFFpow5Tl3Eiz12-8JEI@jntp> <VYLp-BjAIbWT-h39YGH1pWjyXGI@jntp> Reply-To: erratic.howard@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 22:10:36 +0100 Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="35bbfcf15c89fbf3da7d340233639ce8"; logging-data="637234"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/6wa6go7u5PzWD3oG1vozMVnoC6qwe2VM=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:mzRocYXByRKOx3GBM7ZxJuD0Og8= X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-gb X-ICQ: 1701145376 Bytes: 1727 WM explained : > Does ℕ = {1, 2, 3, ...} contain all natural numbers such that none can be > added? > > If so, then the bijection of ℕ with E = {2, 4, 6, ...} would prove that both > sets have the same number of elements. Actually, same size set. "Number of elements" is better suited to finite sets. > Then the completion of E resulting in > E = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ...} would double the number of its elements. That is not a completion of E. But still the same size set. By your sense of 'complete' the set of even numbers was already 'complete' because no more even numbers could be 'added'. > Then there are more natural numbers than were originally in ℕ. Nope.