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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Anonymous <anon@anon.net> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: Justice Department files antitrust suit against Apple Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 19:48:31 -0400 Organization: Mixmin Message-ID: <utvmsf$82hi$2@news.mixmin.net> References: <xn0ojl66a1q9nyc005@reader443.eternal-september.org> <CpWdnX1RvOSC-2P4nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@supernews.com> <utlovo$3f8ji$1@dont-email.me> <utmgfo$3kegg$1@dont-email.me> <-bCcnWvtgscvkWL4nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@supernews.com> <utr6hs$3r204$1@news.mixmin.net> <_yiMN.122726$SyNd.9398@fx33.iad> <utt7kt$1ejr$1@news.mixmin.net> <2bBMN.104112$_a1e.62699@fx16.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 23:48:32 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.mixmin.net; posting-host="c4af4a3027e8317d29ea238d8aa6bb2f616aa3fc"; logging-data="264754"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@mixmin.net" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <2bBMN.104112$_a1e.62699@fx16.iad> Bytes: 4341 Lines: 67 Alan Browne wrote: > On 2024-03-25 21:16, Anonymous wrote: >> Alan Browne wrote: >>> On 2024-03-25 02:45, Anonymous wrote: >>>> Tyrone wrote: >>> >>>>> You keep saying that, but it makes no sense. And AGAIN, what laws is Apple not >>>>> abiding? Because YOU don't like Apple does not mean they are breaking any >>>>> laws. >>>>> >>>>> Apple is a consumer products company. They are selling directly to consumers. >>>>> How do you sell consumer products to consumers (who line up to buy your >>>>> products, BTW) AND be "anti-consumer" at the same time? >>>>> >>>>> If Apple truly WAS "anti-consumer", then NO ONE WOULD BUY THE PRODUCTS. Do you >>>>> understand simple logic? >>>>> >>>>> This DOJ case is all based on competitors whining that it is too difficult for >>>>> them to make money selling software/whatever to Apple's customers. Well boo >>>>> hoo. Apple is like 25% of the global market for phones and PCs. Try selling >>>>> your stuff to the 75% of the market. >>>>> >>>>> Or feel free to create your own phones/tablets/desktops/ecosystem and make >>>>> your money from your own products. Not just leeching from other company's >>>>> products. >>>>> >>>>> U.S. anti-trust laws exist to protect consumers. Not competitors. >>>> >>>> I'm not a lawyer, but the government can claim that Apple is engaging >>>> in conspiracy to restrain trade and commerce, which is broadly illegal >>> >>> Apple has plenty of competition. >> >> According to the law, that doesn't matter as far as conspiracy is concerned. >> >>>> and does not require Apple to actually be a monopoly. And forget suing; >>>> Tim Cook himself can be arrested and tried criminally for this if the [AAA] >>>> <--- >>>> government ever decided to actually enforce the law. >>> >>> ROFL. At least you got the "I'm not a lawyer" part right. >> >> 15 U.S. Code § 1: >> >> "Every contract, combination in the form of trust or otherwise, or >> conspiracy, in restraint of trade or commerce among the several States, or >> with foreign nations, is declared to be illegal. Every person who shall make >> any contract or engage in any combination or conspiracy hereby declared to >> be illegal shall be deemed guilty of a felony, and, on conviction thereof, >> shall be punished by fine not exceeding $100,000,000 if a corporation, or, >> if any other person, $1,000,000, or by imprisonment not exceeding 10 years, >> or by both said punishments, in the discretion of the court." >> >> https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1 > > That "if a corporation" part sailed right over your head ... [AAA] above > > Sheesh. Don't state what you don't understand, and certainly don't quote what > you understand even less. You can't throw a corporation in prison, genius. "Every PERSON who shall make any contract or engage in any combination or conspiracy hereby declared to be illegal shall be deemed guilty of a felony, and, on conviction thereof, shall be punished by fine not exceeding $100,000,000 if a corporation, OR, if any other PERSON, $1,000,000, or by imprisonment not exceeding 10 years, or by both said punishments, in the discretion of the court."