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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.fandom Subject: Re: Babel Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 07:47:35 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: <uu110n$2qi67$1@dont-email.me> References: <us5st0$485$1@panix2.panix.com> <rde10jldh1c4c7r34c38jsf44eb8gfrctq@4ax.com> <utsf55$1mr$1@panix2.panix.com> <uttff3$1j15o$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 11:47:35 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="23718969c27650b534c721361b0c6f4f"; logging-data="2967751"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18NvM2VpZAFTNL2YPN0zqkx028K9h/LmzU=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:c2VpjMQEL6GQYUNQ23k79cpiIvQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <uttff3$1j15o$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2355 On 3/25/2024 11:29 PM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote: > On 3/25/24 2:18 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote: >> Mad Hamish <newsunspammelaws@iinet.unspamme.net.au> wrote: >>> On 5 Mar 2024 01:35:28 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote: >>> >>>> So, I am reading Rebecca Kuang's _Babel_ to see just what it was >>>> that the >>>> Hugo Committee may have objected to, and I find it extremely >>>> pro-Chinese. >>>> It is strongly against British imperialism and against the Opium >>>> War, and >>>> the Chinese government of the time may not have been very strong but >>>> was >>>> determined. >>> >>> I think I've heard that the issue isn't the current work but that >>> she's written stuff critical of China in the past. >> >> Which would be even WORSE because it would be punishing her for >> "reforming" >> and finally writing something less critical. >> >> Whatever it was, it was sure a mess. >> --scott > > As I noted elsewhere, the good news is that all this resulted in a lot > of publicity for the book, which could well reach a wider audience than > if it *had* won the Hugo. Regardless of nigglined edge cases, the point remains. Russia has been invaded many times in history, while the US mainland has not. pt