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Subject: Re: (Tears) Beyond Rejection (Beyond, volume 1) by Justin Leiber
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2024 19:45:14 -0400
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On 3/28/2024 12:18 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
>> On 3/28/2024 10:07 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>> Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
>>>> On 3/27/2024 12:15 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 17:58:24 +0000, John
>>>>> <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's also the non-fiction "Tramp Royale" in which RAH pioneers the
>>>>>>> slightly snarky travel book decades before the likes of Bill Bryson
>>>>>>> and his successors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess you could say he pioneered the slightly snarky travel book, but
>>>>>> only because Mark Twain pioneered the *extremely* snarky travel book in
>>>>>> the previous century.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The title "Tramp Royale" may even be a wink to "A Tramp Abroad"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I could have done without the final chapter in which he advises the
>>>>>>> reader that they might as well travel the USA as its sights are better
>>>>>>> than anything the rest of the world could offer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A deeply Heinlein attitude, although I agree that some Americans have a
>>>>>> weird tendency to not view it as a "real" vacation unless an ocean was
>>>>>> crossed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I came to the conclusion that "visiting the relatives" and "real
>>>>> vacation" were not the same thing (except, of course, in my family) --
>>>>> but I didn't think you had to cross an ocean to have a real vacation.
>>>>
>>>> I've long used the term 'oblication' to describe the trips you Must Take
>>>> even if you'd rather go somewhere new.
>>>>
>>>> I've been to Silicon Valley to visit my mother more times than I can
>>>> remember, and my wife and I have pretty well run out of sites to visit.
>>>
>>> I've lived there for three decades and still haven't visited
>>> every site of interest within a 180 minute drive.
>>
>> Different interests, probably. I have to limit myself to things that
>> my wife will like too.
>>
>> Next trip, I'm going to try to squeeze in a visit to the Stanford
>> Linear Accelerator. Tours are on a pretty limited schedule.
>>
>> Best excursions have been overnights to Yosemite and Mt Shasta.
> 
> Yes, those are nice.   I assume you've been to Carmel and Monterey,

Yes and Yes.

> but how about Fort Bragg or Avila Beach?    Or Pinnacles?

Nope.

> Filoli?   Villa Montalvo?

My mom used to be a docent at Filoli, so yes, but not Montalvo

> Castle airpark museum (SR-71 and a RAF Vulcan are highlights)?

No, but I've been up close with SF-71s in NYC and DC. I've also
been to the Hiller Air Museum and Moffet Field.

> Northeastern California (Alturas, in the great basin high desert)?

I'll look into it. Overnights are a lot rarer than day trips.

> Eureka and Ferndale (there's a redwood tree you can drive through).

Yes, to all 3.

> You've probably visited the Livermore Labs professionally?

Actually no. There were public tours, but they have not been
restarted since the pandemic.

> Highway 49 through gold country?

Yes.

> Tahoe.

Probably too far.

Others we liked: Pt Reyes, Bolinas, Muir Woods, Big Basin
(worth seeing the near-alien regrowth since the fire),
Santa Cruz (scraping the bottom of the barrel, we even
went to The Mystery Spot, which was surprisingly fun).
Alice's Restaurant and the Skyline Drive, Buck's in
Woodside, the coastal highway up to Half Moon Bay, the
beaches on that stretch, Boulder Creek. Botanical
Gardens in Santa Cruz and Stanford. Santa Barbara,
Ventura (was eating in a Black Bear there when
'Ventura Highway' came on the radio).

In SF, Exploratorium, Zoo, Disney Museum, California
Academy of Sciences, Japanese Tea Garden  SF Botanical
Garden, de Young, Chinatown, Tiki Room, Fisherman's Wharf,
Twin Peaks, Presido, Golden Gate Bridge, Coit Tower,
and all the usual tourist stuff.

pt