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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Definition_of_real_number_=E2=84=9D_--infinitesimal?= =?UTF-8?Q?--?= Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:39:17 +0000 Organization: Not very much Lines: 20 Message-ID: <uu6cpl$9lkg$1@dont-email.me> References: <bebe16f4f02eed7ac4e4d815dc0e1e98f9f0f2a0.camel@gmail.com> <uu3qk7$3jc94$1@dont-email.me> <uu444a$3lnuc$1@dont-email.me> <uu44k2$3lrph$1@dont-email.me> <uu46o5$3lnud$1@dont-email.me> <uu479l$3mm2m$1@dont-email.me> <0d0e4d05921c2b773edf2d251486b0899f221d56.camel@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:39:17 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="37871d38fa99229cbe905809e7b98409"; logging-data="317072"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19pxhwxbJmJLGXVHOLl4G9m" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:v4t0KroIrUSKY/AA3ijGeG5F8NY= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <0d0e4d05921c2b773edf2d251486b0899f221d56.camel@gmail.com> Bytes: 2441 On 28/03/2024 19:22, wij wrote: > I saw lots of inconsistency in Andy Walker's response. I think the simple > way to solve his doubt is for him to prove "repeating decimal is rational". Yet you cannot actually describe any inconsistency in what I [and for that matter Fred, Richard, Keith and perhaps others] say. My "doubt" is not about what *I* know about mathematics, but about (a) your abuse of the terms "R" and "real number" to describe mathematical objects to which you ascribe properties which contradict the Archimedean axiom of R; and (b) the lack of any discernible rationale for your proposals. So I ask again -- what problem do Wij-numbers solve that use of the traditional real numbers fails to solve? There is no difficulty in evaluating a "repeating decimal" in R, and the answer is easily seen to be rational. If you hybridise R with some other system which permits infinitesimals, then it's not surprising that you manage to confuse yourself. -- Andy Walker, Nottingham. Andy's music pages: www.cuboid.me.uk/andy/Music Composer of the day: www.cuboid.me.uk/andy/Music/Composers/Gottschalk