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From: olcott <polcott2@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Can any pathological input thwart a simulating abort decider?
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 10:07:40 -0500
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On 3/29/2024 8:13 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 3/28/24 11:23 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 3/28/2024 9:39 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 3/28/24 9:45 PM, olcott wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>>> Then why do you "pick and choose" which commands of God you will 
>>>>> follow?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Which laws do you think are still in effect?
>>>
>>> Why do you ask?
>>>
>>> Did you not understand my previous description?
>>>
>>> There is the Ceremonial Law, that talks of how Israel was approach 
>>> God. It has still some generic applicability, in that it helps us 
>>> understand the nature of Gd, and helps us understand general 
>>> principles, but the details of the regulations are no longer 
>>> applicable. For example, we no longer need to be physically 
>>> circumcised, as a symbol of being part of his people, as we are given 
>>> the Spirit as our sign.
>>>
>>> Then there is the Social Law, that talks of how Israel was to be a 
>>> people and govern itself. Again, this show general principles of how 
>>> we should live, but again, many of the detail are not applicble, as 
>>> we are not living under a Theocracy.
>>>
>>> Lastly, there is the Moral Law, which deals with how we deal with 
>>> other people. These laws still apply, and in some cases are enhanced, 
>>> as we are given a better understanding of the nature of God and what 
>>> he expects. (Like when Jesus points out that "Getting Angry" is akin 
>>> to Murder, and Looking Lustfully is akin to physical adultery.
>>>
>>> So, ALL are still in effect, but some under a more spiritual 
>>> understanding.
>>>
>>
>> That is a good start, now which actual laws are still in effect?
> 
> As I said, ALL of THEM, in various degrees.
> 

EPHESIANS 2:15 NRSV
He has abolished the law with its commandments and ordinances, that
he might create in himself one new humanity in place of the two, thus
making peace...

Here it is in every other translation.
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Ephesians%202:15

> Too manu to tr
> 
>>
>> Galatians 5:14 NRSV
>> 14 For the whole law is summed up in a single commandment,
>> “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
>>
>> *Literally says that every law of God is subsumed under this one*
> 
> But "Literal" isn't the proper hermeneutic for reading a work.
> 

It must either be (a) literal (b) some infallible way of knowing
exactly what degree of figurative meaning is the intended degree.

>>
>> When fallible humans say ALL they actually mean MOST.
>> An infallible being would not make this same mistake.
>>
> 
> Nope. ALL MEANS ALL.
> 

"You do that ALL the time", never means {You do that ALL the time}.

> Because we don't look at it from fallible man, but need to try to see it 
> from the view of the perfect God.
> 

Then Galatians 5:14 does subsume all of the other laws.

> You are just proving you don't knpw what you are talking about.
> 
> The Bible IS "From God" (through men), so we need to interpret it as such.

The biblical inerrancy people have a different view.

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