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From: Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please>
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Subject: Re: Politicaly correct?
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:15:44 +0100
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On 3/30/24 17:37, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
> Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 01:04:38 +0100, jim whitby
>> <mr.spock@spockmnail.net> wrote:
>>
>>> This is from an rss feed today.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, the IEEE Computer Society announced to members that, after
>>> April 1, it would no longer accept papers that include a frequently used
>>> image of a 1972 Playboy model named Lena Forsén. The so-called "Lenna
>>> image," (Forsén added an extra "n" to her name in her Playboy appearance
>>> to aid pronunciation) has been used in image processing research since
>>> 1973 and has attracted criticism for making some women feel unwelcome in
>>> the field.
>>>
>>> Why? What could possibly be demeaning about a (above the shoulders) female
>>> photo!
>>
>> The full photo is ahh ... fuller.
>>
>> .<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lena_Fors%C3%A9n>
>>
>> And she is famous in image processing.  I doubt that the IEEE can
>> change that.
>>
>> War story:  Maybe ten years ago, my wife and I took my 15-yo nephew to
>> Sweden, where I had lived and have friends.  We were walking through a
>> park near Stockholm's City Hall, where the grassy plaza is lined with
>> many bronze beauties in full glory.  My Swedish friend stopped at one
>> of the beauties and commented that the model for that particular
>> statue was the mother of one of his childhood friends.  Nephew was
>> floored.
> 
> There is a tendency to forget that beautiful women are just people like
> the rest of us.  A woman whom I knew as a folk dancer and the mother of
> two children once said to me: "If you wonder what I look like naked, go
> and see the statue in xxx Town Hall, I was the model for it.

There is this attitude, especially in the US and muslim countries,
that nudity is reprehensible, more so than physical violence. This
is weird and borderline insane.

The problem is that if you've been raised in that environment,
it's almost impossible to change.

Jeroen Belleman