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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: This FOSS Thang :-) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:58:50 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 55 Message-ID: <uuacga$1adrl$1@dont-email.me> References: <66000fa7$0$2559$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <mre10jh3901253ot6l78drtrvqumdvvt6g@4ax.com> <utuigi$1qkgv$1@dont-email.me> <utut5t$1trsr$1@dont-email.me> <utvhmj$2caii$1@dont-email.me> <l6hjlhF5qo1U4@mid.individual.net> <uu1c9r$2tf3e$1@dont-email.me> <l6k1b5FhatiU8@mid.individual.net> <uu3qvi$3jftr$3@dont-email.me> <0kjb0j9a025qtkrdrlk48gl55ft8rj6i1r@4ax.com> <m5kb0jlahf685qe015il87ciovqjqof39j@4ax.com> <uu7h74$ibt3$1@dont-email.me> <i5uf0jdg5p41phv3c9elo170nfmttea8l5@4ax.com> <s15g0j1pg664ch080rvjin27d4bf6uqeki@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:58:51 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="585ab8355b3e77b45bc03c9d37a82b6b"; logging-data="1390453"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18NQV77WJDewmwxYRiVmQLV" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Jg29dKyzs1qudxm8bzo6QVjIWrs= Bytes: 3919 On 2024-03-30, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: > chrisv wrote: > >> -hh wrote: >>> >>>I'd also like to see the original statement made, because the above >>>kinda looks like a misquote or misstatement: I've never claimed that >>>Adobe Photoshop was an expensive waste. >> >>Again, -highhorse conjures shit up that no normal person could have >>thought what the issue was, at all. > > I need to correct myself. DumFSck's quote > > 'What -hh said about Photoshop - expensive, waste, Gimp does the same > for free - is exactly the written position of most if not all > "advocates" on cola.' > > does read as if -highhorse said that Photoshop was expensive and a > waste. It's poorly written, because that was not its meaning, when it > was posted. > > -highhorse dishonestly attacked the cola advocates for, allegedly, > saying that Photoshop "is a waste", when we had not. (See sig for the > -highhorse quote.) DumFSck *lied* when he claimed that -highhorse's > claims were "exactly the written position of most if not all" the cola > advocates. > > The advocate's position on the issue was always reasonable. Saying > that a product is a poor value propostion, or even a "waste of money" > for casual or occasional users, is cannot be honestly shortened to > the product "is a waste". > >>FFS, all along he's been a Photoshop defender! Obviously! > > The second -highhorse and DumFSck lie is their assertion that cola > advocates said that gimp had "the same" capabilities. We didn't. > > Both of them *lied* to attack our quite-reasonable position. The way I put it is that Photoshop is an expensive niche application. If you need to use it, then you'll have to run Windows or a Mac. We used it in the print shop where I worked (though I didn't, personally, because I wasn't a graphic artist). For what "photoshopping" I do occasionally, GIMP works fine. And I'm guessing most "regular" computer users would say the same. It's not the fault of Linux that Adobe won't make a version of their software for it. If you have to have Photoshop go for Windows or OSX. I don't need or want it. And I'm sure not going to suffer by using Windows on the off chance that I might need Photoshop once or twice every fifth year. -- [Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality." "It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine