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From: Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Politicaly correct?
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:12:28 -0700
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On 3/30/2024 8:45 PM, bitrex wrote:
> On 3/30/2024 6:06 PM, Don Y wrote:
>> On 3/30/2024 12:15 PM, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
>>> There is this attitude, especially in the US and muslim countries,
>>> that nudity is reprehensible, more so than physical violence. This
>>> is weird and borderline insane.
>>>
>>> The problem is that if you've been raised in that environment,
>>> it's almost impossible to change.
>>
>> Dunno.  I have been accustomed to seeing women disrobing in stores
>> (without the benefit of a "changing room") to try on clothing ever
>> since I can recall "shopping".  Or, wearing scant little "in public",
>> let alone at beaches, etc.
>>
>> Here (SW US), it is not uncommon to encounter women "letting it all
>> hang out" -- even in professional positions.
>>
>> So, assuming the *nation* defines the "environment" is a gross
>> generalization.
> 
> Not surprised that the practice developed at USC; mixing business and pleasure 
> is the "California Style" style of engineering, like wearing ratty T-shirts and 
> cargo shorts to the office, which also likely has foozball tables, a full bar, 
> 55" video game screen/man cave and on-demand sushi and strippers, and all that.
> 
> Not much hardware design goes on in New England anymore but I'm definitely more 
> a fan of the "New England"-style of wearing a shirt and tie to the office and 
> leaving the centerfolds, video games, and generalized baby bullshit at the door.

Never wore a shit&tie when working in Boston.  And, only a few "old folks"
wore ties.  Though I did wear a "dress shirt" and not T-shirts.   (unless,
of course, I was "away from the office in a capacity where I was representing
the company -- three piece suit, pocket watch, coiffed hair, polished shoes,
etc.)

Don't see how what folks wore had any impact on the quality of their work
or work ethic.  Do recall turning down a job offer in the midwest because
the office was quieter than a library and EVERYONE wore shirt&tie.  And,
another offer accepted where my boss reminded me, daily, to wear a tie
(and never did for all the years I worked there; "I don't recall it
being stated as a condition of employment or even MENTIONED, for that
matter").

Never had access to TVs, bars, centerfolds or "baby bullshit", video games,
either.  (except when working *on* video games)  Do recall not wearing jewelry, 
belt buckles, etc. -- anything that could lead to injury from electrocution.
(though I never worked in California)

Of course, once I went on my own, I rarely *met* my clients so clothing,
business hours, etc. was never an issue.