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Subject: Re: [OT] Is English just badly pronounced French?
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On 2024-03-31 05:15:53 +0000, shawn said:
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 18:03:50 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
> wrote:
>> On 2024-03-31 03:48:30 +0000, suzeeq said:
>>> On 3/30/2024 7:28 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I apologize in advance to Americans who are inevitably aggrieved by all
>>>> things French just on principle but this video actually makes a pretty
>>>> good case for saying that English is badly-pronounced French to a large
>>>> extent.
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUL29y0vJ8Q [18 minutes]
>>>> 
>>>> When he explains all the English words that are borrowed from French
>>>> with only slight spelling and pronunciation changes, you may well be
>>>> persuaded by his argument.
>>> 
>>> I wondered why the Brits call cookies 'biscuits'. Then I realized it
>>> comes from the French word for cookies 'bicotte'. They also call
>>> eggplants 'aubergines' and zucchini 'corgettes'. There's probably
>>> dozens of other words I can't recall now.
>> 
>> The English language originates from a melding of many sources with
>> words being 'borrowed' from other languages, including French, German,
>> Gaelic, Celtic, etc.   Some words have altered over time, but some
>> words (e.g. rendezvous) have stayed the same as the original.
>> 
>> "American English" is a sub-version that has its own unique spellings
>> and meanings for words. Partly because (despite hating the British
>> rule) they have stubbornly stuck to out-dated versions of words, as
>> well as out-dated measurement systems, that the original Pilgrims
>> brought with them rather than staying contemporary with *real* English.
> 
> Though my understanding is because of the spellings and words that we
> have continued to use in the USA, our form of English is closer to the
> English of Shakespeare than that being used in England today.

Yep, that's what I said: "oudated".  :-p

New words have of course had to be made up for things that didn't exist 
back then, which is another reason there are different words for the 
same things in *real* English and "American English", and to a lesser 
extent "Australian English" or Canadian English", etc.).



>> To a much lesser extent, there are also some different meanings (not
>> spellings that I can think of) for words in "Australian English" and a
>> few other regional variations.