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From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: bike light optics
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 08:31:04 -0400
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On 3/31/2024 10:33 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 3/31/2024 6:56 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 3/31/2024 5:11 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 3/31/2024 4:42 AM, zen cycle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For that matter, I don't see how it's likely that a tree branch 
>>>>> could be
>>>>> so low in the road as to take you off the bike but not cause damage to
>>>>> every passing SUV.
>>>>
>>>> If you ride in the middle of the traffic lane, you're correct. If you
>>>> "stay to the right," whether on the shoulder or in a painted or
>>>> protected bike lane, the SUV is not going to be there (at least they're
>>>> not supposed to be there).
>>>>
>>>> "Taking the lane" sounds good in theory, but realistically, most
>>>> cyclists stay to the right.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Do you not have buses? Most residential streets in London and even 
>>> some of
>>> the bigger cities will have large bus networks which use residential
>>> streets as well that’s where the people are, And with London are double
>>> deckers in most cases. Are places where the bus has to driver further 
>>> out
>>> but they are uncommon enough to require signs warning buses!
>>>
>>> Roger Merriman
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I can't speak to Santa Clara or London specifically, but most places 
>> the bus routes are on arterials while savvy cyclists are a block over 
>> on a less busy parallel street
> 
> True, but tall vehicles like Amazon delivery vans, Ford Transits and 
> similar vans, pickups towing trailers, garbage trucks etc. are on all 
> streets at least occasionally. If there were such low branches over the 
> roadway those vehicles would get damaged and/or the owners would 
> complain to the city.
> 
> On roads, the problem is imaginary. On every bike trail I've seen, the 
> problem has been imaginary, other than one incident when a storm tipped 
> over a tree.

It's not uncommon in this area for low branches to encroach on 
multi-use/recreational trails.

> 
> And even then, I saw that hazard in plenty of time with my Busch & 
> Mueller headlight with a properly cut off beam. Those who imagine zero 
> light above the cutoff are also imagining things.
> 
> Unlike Tom Kunich, Mr. Scharf knows how to post links to photos. If the 
> problem were real and common, he'd have given evidence by now.
> 

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