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Subject: Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved
Date: 1 Apr 2024 12:40:28 GMT
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Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:
> On 2024-04-01 00:55:13 +0000, Tamborino said:
> > 
> > This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's
> > update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.
> > 
> > Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end encryption
> > is now enabled on your Android phone by default.
> > https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/ 
> > 
> > 
> > So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
> > Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android
> > users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of security.
> > 
> > This is critical because it's the issue the DOJ highlighted in its lawsuit:
> > "Apple is willing to make the iPhone less secure and less private... Text
> > messages sent from iPhones to Android phones are unencrypted as a result of
> > Apple's conduct. If Apple wanted to, Apple could allow iPhone users to send
> > encrypted messages to Android users while still using iMessage on their
> > iPhone, which would instantly improve the privacy and security of iPhone
> > and other smartphone users."
> 
> Yet more proof that the US DOJ has no clue what they're talking about.  :-\
> 
> A. Apple doesn't even use RCS ... yet! It is rumoured to be coming in
>    later this year ("in the fall" if you believe a Google post)

  Exactly which part of "will" in "will not" didn't you understand?

> B. Apple messages are end-to-end encrypted, at least between Apple
>    devices using Apple's messaging app (for other apps it is up to
>    their developers, not Apple):
>
>    "Your iMessage and FaceTime conversations are encrypted end-to-end,
>     so they can't be read while they're sent between devices."

  Exactly which part of "unlike in "unlike iMessaging" didn't you
understand?