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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 09:00:19 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: <uuha2j$39r0r$1@dont-email.me> References: <uud0lh$13jd4$1@paganini.bofh.team> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 16:00:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0fd26a2c756301d5afee196adba86e4f"; logging-data="3468315"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+QE1MTdMd8p/dGXeb9miX2+pHu36s/KOY=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:BypVnsnaVi4Gb0dSu2cQ/AydiyA= Content-Language: en-CA In-Reply-To: <uud0lh$13jd4$1@paganini.bofh.team> Bytes: 2477 On 2024-03-31 17:55, Tamborino wrote: > This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's > update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted. > > Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end encryption > is now enabled on your Android phone by default. > https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/ > > So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between > Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android > users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of security. > > This is critical because it's the issue the DOJ highlighted in its lawsuit: > "Apple is willing to make the iPhone less secure and less private... Text > messages sent from iPhones to Android phones are unencrypted as a result of > Apple's conduct. If Apple wanted to, Apple could allow iPhone users to send > encrypted messages to Android users while still using iMessage on their > iPhone, which would instantly improve the privacy and security of iPhone > and other smartphone users." Apple is unwilling to use Google's PROPRIETARY encryption, dimwit. Apple has explicitly stated that they'll work with the mobile phone group that created RCS to build encryption into it.