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From: RonO <rokimoto@cox.net>
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Subject: Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 17:21:33 -0500
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On 4/3/2024 9:14 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2024-04-03 13:29:25 +0000, panther2020 said:
> 
>> We share around half of our genes with the ordinary banana...
>>
>> That assuredly does not come from humans BREEDING with bananas...  It 
>> most liikely comes from humans EATING bananas, pretty much forever, 
>> and probably throughout the universe and not just on  this planet.
>>
>> Likewise, the first experience humans ever had with Neanderthals on 
>> Earth was watching friends and family members being killed and eaten 
>> by them, so that eating a Neanderthal that had been killed in some 
>> battle would have just been sending the Neanderthals a message in 
>> their own language...
>>
>> In both cases, what you seem to be talking about is bacterial 
>> insertian of genes.
>>
>> There is a claim that, because some humans have a certain small number 
>> of genes in common with Neanderthals, that humans and Neanderthals 
>> must have interbred. That amounts to thinking that a Neanderthal male 
>> could/would rape a woman and, rather than cooking and eating her 
>> afterwards as usual, somehow or other keep her alive long enough to 
>> bear a cross-species child, raise that child to reproductive age, and 
>> have him/her breed back into human populations without anybody 
>> catching on, i.e. the claim is ridiculous.
>>
>> In real life:
>>
>> Neanderthal females would kill that woman the first time her new owner 
>> left her alone for ten minutes.
>>
>> The woman wouldn't fare any better than the subjects of the commie 
>> attempts to breed humans and apes into super workers in the 1930s.
>>
>> Humans would notice the child was different (really different...)
>>
>> And humans would kill that child and everybody else like him as part 
>> of the same program which killed out the Neanderthal. They would not 
>> need DNA tests to determine who to kill for that sort of reason, it 
>> would be exceedingly obvious.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/mZbmywzGAVs
>>
>> In other words, it would be a miracle for something like that to ever 
>> have happened once while the claims from Paabo et. al. require it to 
>> have been going on all the time. That is, for human/hominid 
>> cross-breeding to have left detectable traces in the DNA of modern 
>> humans, it would have to have been entirely common.
>>
>> One zero-probability event in the history of the universe? Maybe, but 
>> not an infinite series of them, i.e. not something that stands 
>> everything we know about probability on its head.
> 
> Severe case of Dunning-Kruger here. So much speculation on so little 
> knowledge. I leave it to others with more energy (Mark?) to take it apart.
> 

Some ex child actor started using the creationist banana routine around 
20 years ago, and it was just as stupid as it is now.

Ron Okimoto