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From: Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
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Subject: Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android
 when RCS messaging is involved
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 17:54:04 -0500
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Your Name wrote:
> On 2024-04-01 00:55:13 +0000, Tamborino said:
>>
>> This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's
>> update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.
>>
>> Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end encryption
>> is now enabled on your Android phone by default.
>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/ 
>>
>>
>> So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
>> Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android
>> users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of security.
>>
>> This is critical because it's the issue the DOJ highlighted in its lawsuit:
>> "Apple is willing to make the iPhone less secure and less private... Text
>> messages sent from iPhones to Android phones are unencrypted as a result of
>> Apple's conduct. If Apple wanted to, Apple could allow iPhone users to send
>> encrypted messages to Android users while still using iMessage on their
>> iPhone, which would instantly improve the privacy and security of iPhone
>> and other smartphone users."
> 
> Yet more proof that the US DOJ has no clue what they're talking about.  :-\
> 
> A. Apple doesn't even use RCS ... yet! It is rumoured to be coming in
>    later this year ("in the fall" if you believe a Google post)
> 
> B. Apple messages are end-to-end encrypted, at least between Apple
>    devices using Apple's messaging app (for other apps it is up to
>    their developers, not Apple):
> 
>    "Your iMessage and FaceTime conversations are encrypted end-to-end,
>     so they can't be read while they're sent between devices."
> 

Doj is picking on Poor apple.

Apple is just a small, old fashioned country telephone maker. They have 
never deliberately committed crimes or fraud, or screwed their customers.

Sure, they've made mistakes, but all honest. This is all biden's fault. He 
hates apple.