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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 08:19:04 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <uum5ro$1me2$2@i2pn2.org> References: <qHqKnNhkFFpow5Tl3Eiz12-8JEI@jntp> <uu9j79$3gijc$8@i2pn2.org> <5fxRDo_iHMUImphe8RGVplmYuCQ@jntp> <uuc9cr$3j5g3$1@i2pn2.org> <nVHZfuyg7O6FHCXZXigDgC2s8EU@jntp> <uufegr$3p7r0$1@i2pn2.org> <XNMbPeWA6KdZNjVAaRrj0SXXhxo@jntp> <e392b515-c9ad-4e57-8edd-ceedc8b67bea@att.net> <XXPbPRsdhaYaKB7KZdQr_ljWUOk@jntp> <uujudu$115r$1@dont-email.me> <n4HHLvESP6YbxyE8Pjituhs1tXA@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 12:19:04 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="55746"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <n4HHLvESP6YbxyE8Pjituhs1tXA@jntp> Bytes: 2224 Lines: 25 On 4/4/24 5:33 AM, WM wrote: > Le 03/04/2024 à 15:59, FromTheRafters a écrit : >> WM presented the following explanation : >>> Le 02/04/2024 à 17:51, Jim Burns a écrit : >>>> On 4/2/2024 3:36 AM, WM wrote: >>> >>>> If your assumption leads to "no bijection", >>>> but there is a bijection, >>>> then your assumption is wrong. >>> >>> My trick proves that there is no bijection. >>> Or could you explain why first bijecting n and n/1 should destroy an >>> existing bijection? >> >> Your 'trick' only fails to demonstrate a bijection. Failing to >> demonstrate a bijection does not mean that there is no bijection, only >> that your 'trick' doesn't work to that end. > > Explain why first bijecting n and n/1 should destroy an existing bijection! > > Regards, WM It doesn't, Bijections are always between two DISTINCT sets, not a set and a piece of itself thought of as a set. Not following directions breaks a lot of things.