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From: Ted <ted.road@qmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Semen On Skeeter The Trailer Park Pissbum
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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 13:36:51 -0400
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Anton Ray Eaks wrote:
> Ted wrote:
>> % wrote:
>>> Skeeter wrote:
>>>> In article <MPG.40789974c90781c6989796@news.usenetexpress.com>,
>>>> skeeter@hotmale.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>> In article <jSnPN.762250$xHn7.115534@fx14.iad>, ted.street@gmail.com
>>>>> Ted says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <17c2dc96aff8594a$169751$3716115
>>>>>>> $22dd286e@news.thecubenet.com>, precent@yohoo.not says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ted wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In article <660d9859$0$3711207$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>>>>>> skeeterweed@photonmail.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <uuhjee$3ruce$1@i2pn2.org>, ted.road@qmail.com
>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>> <MPG.40749778856be9bb98978d@news.usenetexpress.com>, >>>>>
>>>>>>>> skeeter@hotmale.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>>>>>> <17c22d00da46064a$96254$3081049$72dd786b@news.thecubenet.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> precent@yohoo.not says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ted wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <%SjON.762036$p%Mb.11195@fx15.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> ted.street@gmail.com >>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David LaRue wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:wjhON.99871$24ld.78660@fx07.iad:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> % wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voice of Authority wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Why did the Romans crucify Jesus?  Because he
>>>>>>>> had >>>> become >>>>>>>>>>>>    too woke.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/DougJBalloon/status/1774230983350362304>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        --bks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was also a Communist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus of Nazareth is a figure who is often emulated
>>>>>>>>>>>> for his >>>>>>>>>> emphasis on kindness, mercy and love, but
>>>>>>>> many >>>> of his >>>>>>> disciples >> > seem to miss a very large
>>>>>>>> part of >>>> his teachings in >>>>>>> their attempts >> > to mimic
>>>>>>>> his virtues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Many of Jesusâ?? ideas would be considered
>>>>>>>>>>>> controversial in >>>>>>> the >> > modern world, but his
>>>>>>>> attitudes >>>> regarding economics >>>>>>> would be >> > especially
>>>>>>>> radical, >>>> aligning less with the >>>>>>> conservative views of
>>>>>>>>>>> many of >>>> his followers and more with >>>>>>> the far-left
>>>>>>>> views we now >>>> call >> > communist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, the mainstream interpretations of Jesusâ??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> philosophy seem >> > to ignore or undermine his economic
>>>>>>>>>>>> ideals, >>>>>>> most often in the >> > interest of preserving
>>>>>>>>>>>> capitalism.  >>>>>>> American history has given us >> > many
>>>>>>>>>>>> examples of Biblical >>>>>>> interpretations being used to
>>>>>>>> excuse >>>>>>> harmful institutions >>>>>>> such as slavery and
>>>>>>>> attempt to >>>> de-radicalize >> > the image of >>>>>>> popular
>>>>>>>> figures such as >>>> Martin Luther King Jr. It is >> > only >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> responsible that >>>> we separate Jesusâ??  relationship with money
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>> that of any churches who stand to profit
>>>>>>>> financially from >>>>>>> >>>> more >> > capitalist interpretations
>>>>>>>> of his words.  >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     We can read stories about
>>>>>>>> Jesusâ?? emphasis on >>>> communal >>>>>>> practices, >> > like
>>>>>>>> sharing meals and labor and >>>> starting the >>>>>>> tradition now
>>>>>>>>>>> referred to as >>>> â??communion.â? We can also see >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that he has a >> > >>>> particular interest in the needs of people
>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>> his >>>> society would >> > rather abandon such as
>>>>>>>> women who had >>>>>>> >>>> committed adultery and those >> > with
>>>>>>>> leprosy or physical >>>>>>>>>>> disabilities.  >> > >>>>>>>>>> He
>>>>>>>> tells his followers to >>>> forgive their debtors, that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should >> > not store up >>>> treasures on earth and that
>>>>>>>> they cannot >>>>>>> serve both God >> >>>>> and money. In Matthew
>>>>>>>> 21, he becomes so >>>>>>> enraged by >>>> people using a >> >
>>>>>>>> temple for economic exchange, he >>>>>>> >>>> starts flipping
>>>>>>>> tables.  >> > >>>>>>>>>> In Matthew 19, a rich >>>> man approaches
>>>>>>>> him for instruction and >>>>>>> Jesus >> > tells >>>> him to give
>>>>>>>> up all his possessions and give the >>>>>>> money to >>>> the >> >
>>>>>>>> poor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      â??It is easier for a camel to go through the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eye
>>>>>>>>>>>> of a >>>>>>> needle than >> > for someone who is rich to enter
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Kingdom of >>>>>>> God,� Jesus said in >> > Matthew 19:24
>>>>>>>>>>>> NIV.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      This notion that a rich person would have to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop
>>>>>>>>>>>> being >>>>>>> rich in >> > order to follow him is explicitly
>>>>>>>>>>>> incompatible with >>>>>>> capitalist >> > thinking. Why make
>>>>>>>>>>>> people choose between >>>>>>> following him and pursuing >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> wealth unless he dislikes the >>>>>>> effects of wealth and
>>>>>>>> hopes >>>> to >> > counteract them in some way >>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> encouraging an >>>> alternative lifestyle >> > among his followers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Despite the context and direct nature of his
>>>>>>>>>>>> statement, it >>>>>>> seems >> > to be interpreted quite
>>>>>>>>>>>> differently by many wealthy and >>>>>>> influential >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christians who have yet to give up their >>>>>>> possessions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Under capitalism, interpretations favored by
>>>>>>>> rich >>>> people are >>>>>>> given >> > more of a platform. This 
>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>> created the exact type of >>>>>>> hierarchy >> > among Jesusâ??
>>>>>>>>>>>> fans that he devoted so much time to >>>>>>> warning against.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> His attempts to redistribute power are >>>>>>> often
>>>>>>>>>>>> downplayed, and this >> > is interpreted instead as a story
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about how nobody is perfect.  >> > >>>>>>>>>>    SIUE is
>>>>>>>>>>>> home to a large Christian population, including 20 >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian organizations, whose members I sincerely hope will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoid >> > such a convenient dismissal of this issue.
>>>>>>>> All >>>> of us at >>>>>>> SIUE, >> > Christian or otherwise, should
>>>>>>>>>>>> question the >>>>>>> motivations of our >> > sources.
>>>>>>>> Information >>>> is never presented >>>>>>> without an agenda, and
>>>>>>>> it >> > is >>>> alarmingly common for >>>>>>> information to be
>>>>>>>> presented in >>>> deceitful >> > ways.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      An idea as simple as â??love your neighborsâ?
>>>>>>>> can >>>> be used >>>>>>> to promote >> > the exact opposite
>>>>>>>> message. I >>>> hope that any >>>>>>> readers seeking to >> >
>>>>>>>> understand Jesusâ??  >>>> words will think >>>>>>> critically about
>>>>>>>> their own >> > >>>> ideologies as well and whether >>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> align more closely >>>> with the >> > whitewashed commercial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version that grants >>>> wishes or the radical >> >
>>>>>>>> political figure >>>>>>> portrayed in >>>> the Bible.  >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody reads anything this long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. In fact, the motivation is not to even start
>>>>>>>>>>>> reading >>>>>>>> it.  Very brief posts, otoh, almost always get
>>>>>>>>>>>> read.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus (and God) taught those that were willing to learn.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you were unwilling to read a few words, let alone
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