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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2024 22:57:13 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 32 Message-ID: <uusk09$2b992$1@dont-email.me> References: <uu54la$3su5b$6@dont-email.me> <uu636l$7haj$1@dont-email.me> <20240329084454.0000090f@gmail.com> <uu6om5$cmv8$1@dont-email.me> <20240329101248.556@kylheku.com> <uu6t9h$dq4d$1@dont-email.me> <20240329104716.777@kylheku.com> <uu8p02$uebm$1@dont-email.me> <20240330112105.553@kylheku.com> <uudrfg$2cskm$1@dont-email.me> <87r0fp8lab.fsf@tudado.org> <uuehdj$2hshe$1@dont-email.me> <87wmpg7gpg.fsf@tudado.org> <LISP-20240402085115@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <LISP-20240402091729@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <wrap-20240402092558@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <uui7hf$3gona$1@dont-email.me> <uuj1o5$3pvnq$1@dont-email.me> <87plv6jv1i.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <wwv5xwyifq8.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <if-20240404121825@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <uund4g$ugsb$1@dont-email.me> <uup8ul$1fr2t$1@dont-email.me> <uuq0a3$1lcgf$1@dont-email.me> <uuruuc$26nd1$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2024 22:57:14 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="edc206e7c881f15813a37489a3e0be36"; logging-data="2467106"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/VfZGWrR7zvSBcG40b3nxV" User-Agent: Pan/0.155 (Kherson; fc5a80b8) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+F9zwA8oYJ3BUDCKN+XFpEY4MYg= Bytes: 3479 On Sat, 6 Apr 2024 18:57:47 +0200, Janis Papanagnou wrote: > I named it always explicitly as "Algol 60" and "Algol 68". But at some > instance of time I read somewhere that "Algol" would "now" refer to > Algol 68, so I changed my habit. Sure, Algol 60 is way beyond a museum piece by now. But remember, that was the one that spawned a great number of offshoots, namely the “Algol-like” language family--or really, superfamily. That included Pascal and its own offshoots. Algol 68 was a bit less influential in terms of language features (I think C “int”, “char”, “struct” and “union”, and the “long” and “short” qualifiers came from there, and csh “if ... fi” as well), but it did seem to introduce a bunch of new terminology, some of which caught on, others did not. See how many you can spot: * “Elaboration” for the process of executing a program (including possibly transforming from source form to an executable form) * “Transput” instead of “input/output” * “Heap” for an area in which memory may be dynamically allocated and freed in no particular order * “Overloading” for multiple context-dependent definitions of an operator * “Name” instead of “pointer” or “address” * “Mode” instead of “data type” * “Coercion” for a type conversion * “Cast” for an explicit type conversion * “Void” for a construct yielding no value * “Dereferencing” for following a pointer * “Slice” for a subarray of an array * “Pragmat” for compiler directive (I think “pragma” is more common nowadays.)