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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker? Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 02:08:57 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 19 Message-ID: <uusv7p$2hm6p$3@dont-email.me> References: <uuhd1a$3amnv$1@dont-email.me> <uuld7u$f73d$1@dont-email.me> <uulf2n$ficn$1@dont-email.me> <uulf9o$fl5c$1@dont-email.me> <uulgkf$ftqj$1@dont-email.me> <uune3t$ugsb$6@dont-email.me> <uunepo$usff$1@dont-email.me> <uuq8cp$1n20j$1@dont-email.me> <uuqtue$1v45r$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2024 02:08:57 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="edc206e7c881f15813a37489a3e0be36"; logging-data="2676953"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19Sgqn3cgqTsOJZuH7mUcJ4" User-Agent: Pan/0.155 (Kherson; fc5a80b8) Cancel-Lock: sha1:vVSFBwc5B7MZ8BW0RrbYaZjrITE= Bytes: 1870 On Sat, 6 Apr 2024 10:34:38 +0300, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-04-06 01:26:49 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro said: > >> On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 18:57:44 -0500, olcott wrote: >> >>> There are only two kinds of truth: >>> (a) Analytic truth where expressions of language are true on the basis >>> of their meaning. Example: "All dogs are animals." >>> >>> (b) Empirical truth, expressions of language that rely on sense data >>> from the sense organs. Example: "There is a dog in my living room >>> right now." >> >> Which kind of truth is that statement? > > It is an analytic truth as it is true by the meaning of the words. Can you offer a proof of that?