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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
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Subject: Re: Christians getting it wrong
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2024 01:10:03 -0000 (UTC)
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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>On Apr 7, 2024 at 4:34:36 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>Apr 7, 2024 at 11:53:47 AM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>Sat, 6 Apr 2024 16:17:16 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:

>>>>>>>>You're missing my point. The people who want to impose religion upon
>>>>>>>>civil life want to do so through legislation and the courts, and they
>>>>>>>>have failed at times, succeeded at other times.

>>>>>>>As well they should have.

>>>>>>Laws restricting or making abortion illegal are an example of success in
>>>>>>imposing religion in civil life.

>>>>>Only if you believe it's impossible to believe abortion is murder unless
>>>>>you also believe in religion/god/supernatural etc.

>>>>Unless some state finally got a law passed defining human life beginning
>>>>at conception, then no homicide has taken place. If it's not homicide,
>>>>then it's not murder.

>>>The point is, it doesn't take a belief in a supernatural sky-tyrant for a
>>>state to make the determination that life begins at conception.
 
>>HUMAN life

>Doesn't change anything. No belief in supernatural ghosts is required for a
>legislature to make that determination.

That's your hypothetical! That's not literally what's happening in real
world actual state legislatures!

>>Since common law, an unborn child cannot inherit, and only a child born
>>alive inherits. No one recognized that human life began at conception.
>>It was never the law.

>That doesn't mean the law can't change absent a belief in Quetzalcoatl.