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From: FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: InstaCart Delivery Guy Shoots and Kills One of Angie Harmon's
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 09:17:33 -0400
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On 4/5/24 4:15 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 4/5/2024 9:37 AM, FPP wrote:
>> On 4/4/24 10:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 4/4/2024 8:06 PM, FPP wrote:
>>>> On 4/4/24 11:31 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>> On 4/4/2024 6:51 AM, FPP wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/3/24 2:22 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/3/2024 5:59 AM, FPP wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/3/24 4:38 AM, shawn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 23:45:56 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13261563/Angie-Harmon-reveals-Instacart-driver-shot-KILLED-dogs.html 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The actress Angie Harmon shared the devastating news that one 
>>>>>>>>>>> of her family's
>>>>>>>>>> dogs was shot and killed by an InstaCart delivery person over 
>>>>>>>>>> the Easter
>>>>>>>>>> weekend. The 51-year-old former LAW & ORDER star revealed on 
>>>>>>>>>> Instagram on
>>>>>>>>>> Monday that her dog Oliver had been killed by the delivery 
>>>>>>>>>> person after he
>>>>>>>>>> dropped off groceries to their home in Charlotte, North Carolina.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "This Easter weekend a man delivering groceries for InstaCart 
>>>>>>>>>>> shot & killed
>>>>>>>>>> our precious Oliver," she wrote, alongside several sweet 
>>>>>>>>>> photos of the
>>>>>>>>>> deceased pet. "He got out of his car, delivered the food & 
>>>>>>>>>> THEN shot our
>>>>>>>>>> dog.
>>>>>>>>>> Our Ring camera was charging in the house, which he saw & then 
>>>>>>>>>> knew he
>>>>>>>>>> wasn’t
>>>>>>>>>> being recorded. The police let him go because he claimed 
>>>>>>>>>> self-defense. He
>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>> not have a scratch or bite on him nor were his pants torn. He 
>>>>>>>>>> was shopping
>>>>>>>>>> under a woman's identity named Merle. He shot our dog with my 
>>>>>>>>>> daughters and
>>>>>>>>>> myself at home and just kept saying, "Yeah, I shot your dog. 
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I did."
>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>> are completely traumatized and beyond devastated at the loss 
>>>>>>>>>> of our beloved
>>>>>>>>>> boy and family member."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> InstaCart responded to Harmon's claims with a statement to 
>>>>>>>>>>> DailyMail.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "We were deeply saddened and disturbed to hear about this 
>>>>>>>>>>> incident. We have no
>>>>>>>>>> tolerance for violence of any kind and the shopper account was 
>>>>>>>>>> immediately
>>>>>>>>>> suspended from our platform," it said. "We have been in direct 
>>>>>>>>>> contact with
>>>>>>>>>> the customer and are cooperating with law enforcement on their
>>>>>>>>>> investigation."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In an update from the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department 
>>>>>>>>>>> to TMZ, law
>>>>>>>>>> enforcement officials confirmed that the InstaCart driver 
>>>>>>>>>> claimed he shot
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> dog in self-defense.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "The investigation revealed that a delivery driver arrived at 
>>>>>>>>>>> the residence to
>>>>>>>>>> deliver consumable goods. The driver told officers that a dog 
>>>>>>>>>> attacked him
>>>>>>>>>> while he was at the residence and that he defended himself by 
>>>>>>>>>> firing a
>>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>> gunshot, striking and mortally wounding the dog. Another dog 
>>>>>>>>>> was present at
>>>>>>>>>> the residence but did not attack."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They added that the department's Animal Control division was 
>>>>>>>>>>> also involved in
>>>>>>>>>> the response to the shooting but the department confirmed that 
>>>>>>>>>> no charges
>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>> been filed against the driver at this time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The police department added that it was not seeking out any 
>>>>>>>>>>> other individuals
>>>>>>>>>> in response to the shooting.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I’ve looked at the postings online and have some questions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ring doorbells are rechargeable? You can just stick them up to 
>>>>>>>>>> the front of
>>>>>>>>>> the house and move them in and out? How come they don’t get 
>>>>>>>>>> stolen all the
>>>>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that has to be the case because most of them (all that I see
>>>>>>>>> around here) are just stuck to the door so there's no power
>>>>>>>>> connection. I haven't checked but assumed that the ring is 
>>>>>>>>> locked to
>>>>>>>>> the case until you use the app to unlock the ring device.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The groceries delivered Were a very small package left at the 
>>>>>>>>>> front door. I
>>>>>>>>>> thought from the story presented he/she/it must’ve come inside 
>>>>>>>>>> to see that
>>>>>>>>>> her ring doorbell was recharging. So I’m not sure how 
>>>>>>>>>> he/she/it knew.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I assume the actual device was missing (since it was inside
>>>>>>>>> recharging) so the easier way to put it is that the driver saw 
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> there was no camera. He may not even have known they had a Ring 
>>>>>>>>> device
>>>>>>>>> unless he delivered items there before.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ring is currently heavily advertising that every big moment in 
>>>>>>>>>> your life
>>>>>>>>>> happens on your front porch and is captured by your ring 
>>>>>>>>>> doorbell video
>>>>>>>>>> which is just galactically stupid but will they continue this 
>>>>>>>>>> campaign?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what Instacart and the local police policy is on 
>>>>>>>>>> Instacart,
>>>>>>>>>> drivers carrying weapons, potentially concealed?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My guess is just the what ever the local laws are.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They won’t do anything to he/she/it. PETA goes to peoples 
>>>>>>>>>> homes and steals
>>>>>>>>>> their animals and kills them because they don’t think animals 
>>>>>>>>>> should be
>>>>>>>>>> pets and it’s just a small fine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, without a video of what the guy did I don't expect 
>>>>>>>>> anything to
>>>>>>>>> happen to him.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're kidding, right?  Without him having proof of self 
>>>>>>>> defense, he's going to get his ass sued off.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As far as criminal charges go, that'll depend on what, if 
>>>>>>>> anything, he's charged with - as well as his past record, if he 
>>>>>>>> has one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't want to believe there are people who'd shoot a dog with 
>>>>>>> zero provocation, and I'm guessing a jury might not want to either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow, pig.  So you've never been on a jury before, have you?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I fail the voir dire.  But in this instance it's the word of 
>>>>> the victim and only witness against the owners' speculative 
>>>>> "certainty".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The guy doing the shooting is the one who needs to show his reason 
>>>> for shooting in the first place.
>>>>
>>>> You don't want to believe that people treat animals badly?  Do you 
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