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Subject: Re: InstaCart Delivery Guy Shoots and Kills One of Angie Harmon's
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 09:19:53 -0400
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On 4/5/24 4:23 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 4/5/2024 2:05 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>> On 4/4/2024 10:29 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> . . .
>>
>>>>> The sad thing is you can't always tell what the dog is going to do.
>>
>>>> You pay attention to the dog's ears, his head position, and his tail.
>>>> They make it quite clear. Also, dogs pay attention TO YOU, so show
>>>> leadership by standing tall with a proper stride. Don't approach the 
>>>> dog
>>>> in a way he might feel threatened, like with your from above trying to
>>>> pet the top of his head. If he's willing to be petted, he'll let you 
>>>> but
>>>> do it from below eye level on his chest.
>>
>>>> Some dogs, like herding dogs, might be aggressive with their mouths,
>>>> like grabbing wrists or ankles, but that's trying to dominate and not
>>>> trying to kill. A dog that attacks the neck or face is quite dangerous.
>>
>>>>> I run into dogs being walked by their owners all the time and most 
>>>>> dogs
>>>>> are just happy to see anyone but I've run into a few who seemed like
>>>>> they wanted some attention as they came over to me as I was walking by
>>>>> but clearly didn't actually want to be touched. That's taught me to
>>>>> always be cautious when going to pet a dog even though the owner is
>>>>> right there so I'll keep my fingers closed in my hand just in case the
>>>>> dog wants to take a nip.
>>
>>>> Right. NEVER offer dog a finger.
>>
>>> Generally you want to put your hand out, back of the hand towards the
>>> dog so it can smell you and let it come to you if it wants to be
>>> friendly.  Don't make a fist, dogs are smart enough to recognize that as
>>> being aggressive.
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Barbara Woodhouse was against letting the dog sniff the back of the hand
>> approaching from the front, as that's not enough for the dog not to
>> perceive a threat. She recommended approaching from the side as the dog
>> can get a better look at you. As their eyes are on either side of their
>> snouts, they never look straight ahead with both eyes, something people
>> fail to understand.
>>
>>>>> . . .
> 
> If they don't look straight ahead with both eyes, then they don't see 
> parallax 3D ...which I'm not prepared to accept, particularly since my 
> dog watches me intently with both eyes, face-on.
> 
> 

You always let the dog come to the stranger, never the other way around. 
  You always let the dog do the sniffing, you don't offer your hand.

That's a great way to get bit.  The dog has to be comfortable first 
before you approach it.

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