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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 15:59:19 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: <uv4h87$gafg$3@dont-email.me> References: <qHqKnNhkFFpow5Tl3Eiz12-8JEI@jntp> <56fdf4ac-fed6-4c64-96e1-0c11e62df55f@att.net> <6VFp9Pr9I394XSyRAi0w-GMz2GY@jntp> <373b543f-be44-4441-b9d3-9fdb44287e95@att.net> <ymJoogUCploI4Stcei3A4L4PLPg@jntp> <fa45fae3-33bd-495d-8415-07804b36f6f8@att.net> <780i3eKdKZ5P_9FaZ1WI-mHhUTs@jntp> <a91c158a-b4eb-405f-bf7d-7704d7fb171b@att.net> <3eWOtn8set0bbtkUXb-j7rUUTKk@jntp> <7acd4175-a69c-4d36-ad23-5bf952f8e6ea@att.net> <Pf_iGWdEzYuR1oKepOXxD-daK7M@jntp> <uv4g8q$jm4l$1@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2024 22:59:19 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1e0154287d270c974cd6798ddf950547"; logging-data="535024"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18L8j4KNxBjiPdw0V2EF9cSN/i+f+6ASaQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:+f2cDAfyFdLBVkbFdmD5B3sI+GU= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <uv4g8q$jm4l$1@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 2650 On 4/9/2024 3:42 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 4/9/24 8:22 AM, WM wrote: >> Le 09/04/2024 à 01:54, Jim Burns a écrit : >>> On 4/8/2024 9:55 AM, WM wrote: >>>> Le 07/04/2024 à 21:47, Jim Burns a écrit : >>> >>>>> The successor operation is closed in >>>>> the natural numbers. >>>> >>>> For visible numbers only. >>> >>> Visibleᵂᴹ or darkᵂᴹ, >>> k is a natural number :⟺ >>> k=0 ∨ ∃⟦0,k⦆: ∀i ∈ ⟦0,k⦆: i⁺¹ ∈ ⦅0,k⟧ >> >> Not correct if there are all natural numbers such that no further one >> exists below ω. Multiplication by 2 creates numbers beyond ω, or there >> would be numbers immune to multiplication. >> >> Regards, WM > > Nope, because there isn't a "last" natural number, so the statement "no > further one exists" isn't factual, but your false logic of using logic > that only works on finite sets on an infinite set. > > Multiplying ANY Natural numbers (which are all finite) by two, results > in another finite Natural Number. Right! And this new natural number is already in the set of all natural numbers. Why can't WM get this! God damn.