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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
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Subject: Re: Mail-In Voting
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:37:41 -0000 (UTC)
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suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
>On 4/10/2024 9:52 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>On 4/9/2024 10:56 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>>>On Tue, 09 Apr 2024 16:07:55 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>Or making the voter go back to their home state and get an original
>>>>>>>birth certificate - meaning it takes time and money to meet the
>>>>>>>requirements.

>>>>>>No DMV requires you to do that to get a driver license or ID card.

>>>>>I've had to renew mine within the past year and the _ONLY_ ID I was
>>>>>required to show was the about to be retired licence.

>>>>Fred Phelps was lying. You were required to show your birth certificate
>>>>when you obtained your initial driver's license. Yes, if you renew an
>>>>unexpired driver's license, they don't force you to go through all the
>>>>initial identification steps. I had to repeat the initial identification
>>>>steps last time I renewed because I obtained REAL ID.

>>>If you move to a different state, sometimes you have to show your birth
>>>certificate as well as the current DL from the old state. Often they
>>>mark the old license Invalid, and let you keep it as backup ID. You're
>>>justnot legal to drive with it.

>>I would never do that. I'd go through the process of obtaining a license
>>as a new driver, which means taking the driving and written tests. I
>>don't need one state to do me the "favor" of informing another state
>>that I moved.

>I did have to take the written tests in the new states. Which part would 
>you not do, and which part informs another state?

Tell the clerk "I want to be licensed as a brand-new driver and I'm hear
to take the driving test." Then surrendering your existing license and
informing the other state won't happen. If they mark the old license as
"invalid", you are going to have a difficult time using it as
identification especially if you are still a part-year resident of the
other state.

Of course, if you've converted to REAL ID, then they'll look you up on
the Homeland Security database, which recognizes just one primary
residence at a time.

>>I may not have moved. I might live part time in one state and part time
>>in the other state, which means I always want to retain ID from both
>>states.

>I don't think they allow you, unless you're a college student. But you 
>might have to have valid licenses in both states. The ones from my old 
>state were expiring soon anyway, I just didn't get a DL right away on 
>moving to the new state.

In that case if it expired, you can say legitimately that you don't have
a valid driver's license from another state!