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From: suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com>
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Subject: Re: Ping anim
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:15:28 -0700
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On 4/10/2024 1:58 PM, shawn wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 13:36:15 -0700, suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/10/2024 1:07 PM, shawn wrote:
>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:55:54 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article
>>>> <1782814550.734460645.097495.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
>>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>> One of my friends just shared a video with me touting the features of
>>>>>> the latest Tesla FSD (Full Self Driving) software and I was surprised
>>>>>> to find that it was made in Scottsdale. It's essentially the first
>>>>>> video footage I've seen of the place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX4kekZ2Fps [25 minutes]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've always found it interesting to see places I've never been. They
>>>>>> always seem to look different than whatever I've anticipated. This is
>>>>>> no exception. I suppose I was expecting more sandy desert and cactus and
>>>>>> fewer boulders and scrub grass and palm trees ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, anyone curious to see what the area looks like might find this
>>>>>> an interesting video.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the post. I found it an interesting watch.
>>>>>
>>>>> It does confuse me on several points.
>>>>>
>>>>> The bashes he went to (supermarket) isn’t even in Scottsdale. It’s about 15
>>>>> miles to the south in another city. Bashes supermarkets are all over the
>>>>> place. There are literally half a dozen between the one he went to and his
>>>>> friends house so I have no idea why he did that.
>>>>>
>>>>> The cheesesteak place he went to, I’ve never heard of, but it’s very near
>>>>> my old office, and only a couple miles from where I live.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most of what you see in the video are freeways, industrial areas, shopping
>>>>> centers. That is what those things look like but if you drove around
>>>>> through neighborhoods people live in, you would see a lot more lawns and
>>>>> greenery. Traditionally people move here from back east to get away from
>>>>> their allergies and bring with them everything they were allergic to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, palm trees are everywhere! I have had several. They are actually
>>>>> rogue. They just appear in your yard one day and then decades later are 50
>>>>> feet tall. I have had several removed because they were too close to the
>>>>> house and were going to take the roof right off as they pushed on the eaves
>>>>> from below.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, L.A.'s ubiquitous and signature palm trees are not native to
>>>> California, either. They're an invasive species (actually several
>>>> species) that people just happen to find attractive for landscaping.
>>>>
>>>> I've read that palms are also technically not trees. Don't know if
>>>> that's true or not.
>>>
>>> So it is just like the tumbleweed. We associate the tumbleweed with
>>> the old west and palm trees with Los Angeles/Hollywood and neither one
>>> actually belongs there.
>>>
>> Tumbleweeds are real and they're found all over the West, maybe in the
>> midwest too. I've seen them and I live more than 1000 from SoCal.
> 
> Sure, they are real. Nobody is discounting that. I was referring to
> them being an invasive species. I believe they first came from Russia

Yeah, my dad sometimes called them Russian thistles.

> and have taken off like crazy. If I'm remembering right they showed up
> after the Wild West days which is why I talked about the general
> public associating tumbleweeds with the old west when the tumbleweed
> showed up after the old west days were gone.
>