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From: FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: InstaCart Delivery Guy Shoots and Kills One of Angie Harmon's
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 10:38:58 -0400
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On 4/9/24 11:32 AM, moviePig wrote:
> On 4/9/2024 9:17 AM, FPP wrote:
>> On 4/5/24 4:15 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 4/5/2024 9:37 AM, FPP wrote:
>>>> On 4/4/24 10:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>> On 4/4/2024 8:06 PM, FPP wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/4/24 11:31 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/4/2024 6:51 AM, FPP wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/3/24 2:22 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 4/3/2024 5:59 AM, FPP wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/3/24 4:38 AM, shawn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 23:45:56 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13261563/Angie-Harmon-reveals-Instacart-driver-shot-KILLED-dogs.html 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The actress Angie Harmon shared the devastating news that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of her family's
>>>>>>>>>>>> dogs was shot and killed by an InstaCart delivery person 
>>>>>>>>>>>> over the Easter
>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend. The 51-year-old former LAW & ORDER star revealed on 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Instagram on
>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday that her dog Oliver had been killed by the delivery 
>>>>>>>>>>>> person after he
>>>>>>>>>>>> dropped off groceries to their home in Charlotte, North 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Carolina.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "This Easter weekend a man delivering groceries for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> InstaCart shot & killed
>>>>>>>>>>>> our precious Oliver," she wrote, alongside several sweet 
>>>>>>>>>>>> photos of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> deceased pet. "He got out of his car, delivered the food & 
>>>>>>>>>>>> THEN shot our
>>>>>>>>>>>> dog.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Our Ring camera was charging in the house, which he saw & 
>>>>>>>>>>>> then knew he
>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn’t
>>>>>>>>>>>> being recorded. The police let him go because he claimed 
>>>>>>>>>>>> self-defense. He
>>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>>> not have a scratch or bite on him nor were his pants torn. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> He was shopping
>>>>>>>>>>>> under a woman's identity named Merle. He shot our dog with 
>>>>>>>>>>>> my daughters and
>>>>>>>>>>>> myself at home and just kept saying, "Yeah, I shot your dog. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I did."
>>>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>>> are completely traumatized and beyond devastated at the loss 
>>>>>>>>>>>> of our beloved
>>>>>>>>>>>> boy and family member."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> InstaCart responded to Harmon's claims with a statement to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DailyMail.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "We were deeply saddened and disturbed to hear about this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> incident. We have no
>>>>>>>>>>>> tolerance for violence of any kind and the shopper account 
>>>>>>>>>>>> was immediately
>>>>>>>>>>>> suspended from our platform," it said. "We have been in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> direct contact with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the customer and are cooperating with law enforcement on their
>>>>>>>>>>>> investigation."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In an update from the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department to TMZ, law
>>>>>>>>>>>> enforcement officials confirmed that the InstaCart driver 
>>>>>>>>>>>> claimed he shot
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> dog in self-defense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The investigation revealed that a delivery driver arrived 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the residence to
>>>>>>>>>>>> deliver consumable goods. The driver told officers that a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> dog attacked him
>>>>>>>>>>>> while he was at the residence and that he defended himself 
>>>>>>>>>>>> by firing a
>>>>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>>>> gunshot, striking and mortally wounding the dog. Another dog 
>>>>>>>>>>>> was present at
>>>>>>>>>>>> the residence but did not attack."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They added that the department's Animal Control division 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was also involved in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the response to the shooting but the department confirmed 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that no charges
>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>> been filed against the driver at this time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The police department added that it was not seeking out any 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other individuals
>>>>>>>>>>>> in response to the shooting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve looked at the postings online and have some questions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ring doorbells are rechargeable? You can just stick them up 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to the front of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the house and move them in and out? How come they don’t get 
>>>>>>>>>>>> stolen all the
>>>>>>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that has to be the case because most of them (all that 
>>>>>>>>>>> I see
>>>>>>>>>>> around here) are just stuck to the door so there's no power
>>>>>>>>>>> connection. I haven't checked but assumed that the ring is 
>>>>>>>>>>> locked to
>>>>>>>>>>> the case until you use the app to unlock the ring device.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The groceries delivered Were a very small package left at 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the front door. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> thought from the story presented he/she/it must’ve come 
>>>>>>>>>>>> inside to see that
>>>>>>>>>>>> her ring doorbell was recharging. So I’m not sure how 
>>>>>>>>>>>> he/she/it knew.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I assume the actual device was missing (since it was inside
>>>>>>>>>>> recharging) so the easier way to put it is that the driver 
>>>>>>>>>>> saw that
>>>>>>>>>>> there was no camera. He may not even have known they had a 
>>>>>>>>>>> Ring device
>>>>>>>>>>> unless he delivered items there before.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ring is currently heavily advertising that every big moment 
>>>>>>>>>>>> in your life
>>>>>>>>>>>> happens on your front porch and is captured by your ring 
>>>>>>>>>>>> doorbell video
>>>>>>>>>>>> which is just galactically stupid but will they continue 
>>>>>>>>>>>> this campaign?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what Instacart and the local police policy is on 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Instacart,
>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers carrying weapons, potentially concealed?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My guess is just the what ever the local laws are.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They won’t do anything to he/she/it. PETA goes to peoples 
>>>>>>>>>>>> homes and steals
>>>>>>>>>>>> their animals and kills them because they don’t think 
>>>>>>>>>>>> animals should be
>>>>>>>>>>>> pets and it’s just a small fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, without a video of what the guy did I don't expect 
>>>>>>>>>>> anything to
>>>>>>>>>>> happen to him.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're kidding, right?  Without him having proof of self 
>>>>>>>>>> defense, he's going to get his ass sued off.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As far as criminal charges go, that'll depend on what, if 
>>>>>>>>>> anything, he's charged with - as well as his past record, if 
>>>>>>>>>> he has one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't want to believe there are people who'd shoot a dog with 
>>>>>>>>> zero provocation, and I'm guessing a jury might not want to 
>>>>>>>>> either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wow, pig.  So you've never been on a jury before, have you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, I fail the voir dire.  But in this instance it's the word of 
>>>>>>> the victim and only witness against the owners' speculative 
>>>>>>> "certainty".
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