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Chris wrote:
> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>> Chris wrote:
>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Java Jive wrote:
>>>>>>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done anything wrong. Ever.
>>>>>>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer or business partner.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two civil cases,
>>>>>>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist  -  in most civilised
>>>>>>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing someone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction.
>>>>>
>>>>> The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a civil case is a
>>>>> clear case of doing something wrong.
>>>>
>>>> No it's not. Anyone can sue anyone for anything.
>>>
>>> And? If the court finds against you you've legally done something wrong.
>>
>> Not morally.
> 
> Are you saying that Trump has never done anything morally wrong? You've
> completely lost any sense of reality.
> 
> At the very least he cheated on two of his wives. He sexually assaulted one
> woman (probably more) and he defrauded several banks and the IRS.

If he legitimately "knife to the throat" raped women, then why wasn't
he criminally prosecuted? If he defrauded the IRS, was he criminally
charged?

>> The legal system very rarely has anything to do with
>> actual justice.
> 
> In the US, I agree. You've got the system you all wanted.
 >
>>> Also the state DA isn't just anyone and fraud or defamation aren't just
>>> anything.
>>>
>>> If you or I defrauded a bank or insurance company we'd rightly be
>>> prosecuted.
>>
>> Prosecuted under criminal statutes, not sued under civil.
> 
> Why? Civil law is just as important.

Standards of proof in the civil system is not as rigorous as that
in the criminal system.

>>> Why should it be any different for Trump?
>>
>> Nobody is saying it should be.
> 
> That's not true. You're saying he's done nothing wrong and shouldn't face
> trial. The courts should decide.
> 
>>>>> Everyone is NYC has known for decades what kind of crook he is. If it
>>>>> wasn't for the hundreds of millions of dollars he got from Fred he'd just
>>>>> be pretty street criminal.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Further, he faces 91 further criminal charges in 4 separate cases,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All politically-motivated persecutions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lol. I love how the right are strong on law and order until one of their
>>>>> own is found wanting in that dept. Then it's "persecution". Hypocrites the
>>>>> lot of them.
>>>>>
>>>>> How people for that, I don't know.
>>>>
>>>> I want order. After that, we can have law. Instead, we have politically-
>>>> motivated persecutions for made-up crimes,
>>>
>>> Federal law and election law are made up now, are they? The right were
>>> desperate for Biden to be arrested for exactly the same as Trump. Again,
>>> it's one rule for you and different rules for others. That's not how fair
>>> society works.
>>
>> There are countless laws that literally invent crimes and proscribe
>> punishments when there is no concrete harm being done to anyone or
>> anything.
> 
> Countless, really? Examples.
> 
>>>> while Alvin Bragg refuses to
>>>> prosecute violent street criminals.
>>>>
>>>>>> All that proves is that he should have crossed the Rubicon after the
>>>>>> massive election theft of 2020 and started having lots of Democrats
>>>>>> put up against the wall and shot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you even hear yourself? Is that really the sort of america you want to
>>>>> live in where there's no rule of law. People are targeted with violence
>>>>> simply for stating the truth.
>>>>
>>>> Laws don't rule.
>>>
>>> False.
>>
>> Not false. "Rule of law" is a political ideal, a fiction.
> 
> It's the basis for civil society.

The Left has destroyed civil society. Once they're defeated, probably
after some, or much unpleasantness, maybe we can have nice fictions
again.

>>>> Only men do.
>>>
>>> What about women? ;)
>>
>> Women shouldn't be in politics.
> 
> Totally not surprised you'd be a misogynist.