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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!tor.dont-email.me!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@invalid.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: On Arindam Banerjee's recoil-less rail gun and Newton's 3rd Law violations in electrodynamics Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 11:56:00 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 52 Message-ID: <uvb7db$2bj35$1@tor.dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 13:54:19 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: tor.dont-email.me; posting-host="8a7e15c944e776cb21bb6a5d78ea47ed"; logging-data="2477157"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19Nx9ADfxAYInJup+a4kkkqTjphHWuP7uU=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:zhe8TOT6AyHzS+cXQvQ6s0RNcRo= Content-Language: en-US X-Mozilla-News-Host: snews://news.eternal-september.org:563 Bytes: 3575 @ArindamBanerjee I took a look at your video of your 'recoil-less' rail gun: My Movie8feb2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYtyOMbgiZ0 My first impression was that, there is an obvious recoil of the 'gun' or rails+supercapacitors section, but you claim in the description that: "... we are creating momentum from internal energy/force in this experiment. The heavy (3Kg) armature is accelerated by electromagnetic forces. There is a recoil, the rest of the apparatus weighs 4.3Kg - BUT THAT IS DUE TO THE FRICTION FROM THE ROLLING ARMATURE. ... As I have shown in my other videos, the force that accelerates the armature has very little recoil, and this new effect can be used to make reactionless motors for the proper conquest of space." You have worked on this for a long time, but I think you are maybe overlooking that whatever electromagnetic forces act on the current flowing through the rolling bar/'armature', near [*] exactly opposite electromagnetic forces will act on the other end of the rails, i.e., on the oppositely flowing current through the supercapacitors, and the center-of-mass of the whole system will remain near stationary. [*] It is well known that in electrodynamics, Newton's 3rd law is inexact, namely it will appear to be violated if the momentum in the aether or em field is not also considered. I urge you to carefully read FLP-II:26-2, especially the last paragraph, and also FLP-II:27-6 on the (Electromagnetic) Field Momentum. https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_27.html#Ch27-S6 "FLP-II:27-6: We pointed out in Section 26–2 the failure of the law of action and reaction when two charged particles were moving on orthogonal trajectories. The forces on the two particles don’t balance out, so the action and reaction are not equal; therefore the net momentum of the matter must be changing. It is not conserved. But the momentum in the field is also changing in such a situation. If you work out the amount of momentum given by the Poynting vector, it is not constant. HOWEVER, THE CHANGE OF THE PARTICLE MOMENTA IS JUST MADE UP BY THE FIELD MOMENTUM, SO THE TOTAL MOMENTUM OF PARTICLES PLUS FIELD IS CONSERVED." I think it is premature to believe that your inconclusive results can be the basis of a space motor. For that purpose, you may want to take a look at PROJECT ORION: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion) which is a design by the late Freeman Dyson, that works, and does not involve continuously ejecting mass.