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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Arkalen <arkalen@proton.me> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: The unravelling of OoL Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 18:11:04 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 19 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <uvbmeq$2eojv$1@dont-email.me> References: <urtugg$1heh2$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="99848"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:BfwkrWVO3KmzZIJ9D/fRsUZUc7w= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id AAD7E22976C; Fri, 12 Apr 2024 12:11:08 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 752B7229758 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Fri, 12 Apr 2024 12:11:06 -0400 (EDT) by moderators.individual.net (Exim 4.97) for talk-origins@moderators.isc.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from <news@eternal-september.org>) id 1rvJUi-00000000CfZ-3Flj; Fri, 12 Apr 2024 18:11:17 +0200 id 300FDDC01A9; Fri, 12 Apr 2024 18:11:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 18:11:07 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <urtugg$1heh2$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/Nv4tnCg2NQWlsVRujD/FlszM3JeIkH28= Bytes: 2709 On 02/03/2024 02:13, MarkE wrote: > Here is further evidence that OoL research is really only at base camp, > if that. Excitement and optimism over reported progress needs to be > tempered thus: > > "Explaining isolated steps on the road from simple chemicals to complex > living organisms is not enough. Looking at the big picture could help to > bridge rifts in this fractured research field." > https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00544-4 > snip Okay you know what I've now seen three different sources describing this article as confirming ID/debunking OoL research and that *look* like they read it (as in, they quote from it & claim to have read the full thing) so I'd really like to see for myself what it says. Anybody have a subscription to Nature & feel generous with PDFs?