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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: how Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 13:16:54 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 57 Message-ID: <uvc4rn$2hm3c$4@dont-email.me> References: <qHqKnNhkFFpow5Tl3Eiz12-8JEI@jntp> <44eaef1b-35be-4b50-900b-52b010ba9aa0@att.net> <_g9BcdiKQ1epFrcvM4FSF2rZkN8@jntp> <uvbeiq$2cvvd$1@dont-email.me> <lprzVpdRcfIy-L_JSquAz9BT8hI@jntp> <uvbh5k$2dir1$1@dont-email.me> <c-i86HjQFZQU4KksHNolidtBjOA@jntp> <uvbiab$2dq9a$1@dont-email.me> <ItTEuIS_QBKithVblps0EILoXDo@jntp> <uvbla3$2eghu$1@dont-email.me> <itblzhkVG-xLR2yhwCcLNPiz1hs@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:16:55 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="580845cba5e816a4d21fffa29c63ed62"; logging-data="2676844"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Os2cmV/qpGVqRmxfRegE1ZshjtxHtL80=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:+EwoQOeupq8UkK4z6mj+HFFmecY= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <itblzhkVG-xLR2yhwCcLNPiz1hs@jntp> Bytes: 3227 On 4/12/2024 9:40 AM, WM wrote: > Le 12/04/2024 à 17:51, Tom Bola a écrit : >> WM schrieb: >> >>> Le 12/04/2024 à 17:00, Tom Bola a écrit : >>>> WM schrieb: >>>> >>>>> Le 12/04/2024 à 16:40, Tom Bola a écrit : >>>>>> WM schrieb: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 12/04/2024 à 15:56, Tom Bola a écrit : >>>>>>>> WM schrieb: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Consider the set {1, 2, 3, ..., ω} and multiply every element >>>>>>>>> by 2 with the result {2, 4, 6, ..., ω*2}. What elements fall >>>>>>>>> between ω and ω*2? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> {w+1, w+2, w+3, ...} >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, all elements emergeing from doubling have larger distances >>>>>>> than 1. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What size has the interval between N*2 and ω*2? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> N*2 is not a number, so there is no interval between it and w*2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> N*2 is a set having elements but not including w*2. So there is a >>>>>>> distance. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is wrong because there is a distance to any element of that >>>>>> set. But you probably are meaning the distance between the set >>>>>> limit of IN which is w and w*2 >>>>> >>>>> I am meaning the distance between N*2 and ω*2 after multiplication. >>>> >>>> Yes, that is the set after multiplication: {0, 2, 4, 6, ..., w, w+1, >>>> w+2, w+3, ..., w*2} >>> >>> Why are the distances below ω 2 but beyond ω 1? >> >> This is the union of the image from IN under f(n)=2n and the "elements >> fall between ω and ω*2" that you wanted above > > I wanted the image of 1, 2, 3, ..., ω under multiplication by 2. >> >> The image of IN under f(n)=2n and w is still {0, 2, 4, 6, ..., w*2} > > Yes, but where is ω in this sequence? set A [ 2, 4, 6, 8, ... ] set B [ 1, 3, 5, 7, ... ] set C [ 1, 2, 3, 4, ... ] All three sets are infinite. So, the "size" of each set is infinite.