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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: how Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 09:05:14 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <uvdvua$vnmp$1@i2pn2.org> References: <qHqKnNhkFFpow5Tl3Eiz12-8JEI@jntp> <uv1u89$gg07$1@i2pn2.org> <ekdJ-XDKSkYPaHoPLf34i3GSGUs@jntp> <uv4hkt$jm4k$1@i2pn2.org> <beJ729k0Ep63Kb_qzgKz-TvZP80@jntp> <uv7609$n6lm$2@i2pn2.org> <0i01kKYhCcWwtJURV35AV3Oy16s@jntp> <44eaef1b-35be-4b50-900b-52b010ba9aa0@att.net> <_g9BcdiKQ1epFrcvM4FSF2rZkN8@jntp> <f4890eb5-e8df-4d98-a1ba-98c40f516df5@att.net> <HowGC2OIbH3GwJcRQBgR51F0vzM@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 13:05:14 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1040089"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <HowGC2OIbH3GwJcRQBgR51F0vzM@jntp> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2627 Lines: 50 On 4/13/24 8:35 AM, WM wrote: > Le 12/04/2024 à 20:57, Jim Burns a écrit : >> On 4/12/2024 9:18 AM, WM wrote: > >> usedᵂᴹ or not.usedᵂᴹ >> not.exists > > All individually usable numbers satisfy > ∀n ∈ ℕ_ind: |ℕ \ {1, 2, 3, ..., n}| = ℵo. > All collectively useable numbers satisfy > |ℕ \ {1, 2, 3, ...}| = 0 ALL elements of ℕ are individually usable, there is not finite number n that is the highest usable number, which is the fundamental FLAW in your logic, which makes it just BLOW UP. > >>> What elements fall between ω and ω*2? >> >> ω+1 ω+2 ... > > What elements of {1, 2, 3, ..., ω}*2 fall between ω and ω*2? > Their distances must be 2. NONE. All of the elements of { 1, 2, 3, ...} *2 will be < ω, and the {ω}*2 part will BE ω*2, and thus not between. >> >>> What size has the interval between ℕ*2 and ω*2? >> >> I take you to be asking how many ordinals are >> after each of {2,4,6,...} and before ω+ω > > No, the question is: What elements of {1, 2, 3, ..., ω}*2 fall between ω > and ω*2? None. >> >> No doubled ordinal is between ω and ω+ω > > Then {1, 2, 3, ..., ω}*2 increases the gap between {1, 2, 3, ...} and ω > from 0 to infinity. Very bumpy. Only a factor 2 is possible when doubling. Nope, because the "gap" doesn't have a defined distance, just an ordering. > > Regards, WM