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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 12:04:18 -0700
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On 2024-04-14 12:02, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 4/14/24 11:13 AM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-04-14 11:07, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 4/14/24 10:43 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-04-14 10:38, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>> On 4/14/24 2:34 AM, Chris wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do "peaceable men" need to have a gun? In modern society 
>>>>>> there's no
>>>>>> need for anyone to be carrying guns. It's just boys pretending to 
>>>>>> be men.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When everyone is carrying a gun you can't differentiate between 
>>>>>> the good
>>>>>> and bad guys. When you ban guns the bad guys are easy to spot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then what?  Call a cop and maybe one will show up in half an hour?
>>>>>
>>>>>> But "muh freedom" is more important. Idiots the lot of them.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You know, Canada is pretty much identical to the US from a
>>>> cultural/socio-economic standpoint and yet there is this one weird 
>>>> thing:
>>>>
>>>> We have far FAR fewer people getting killed by firearms; more then 5
>>>> times fewer.
>>>
>>> Canadians are just nicer than USians.  OTOH, "they're not even a real 
>>> country anyway!"
>>
>> That's your best is it?
> 
> Not worth the full effort.
> 
> We have lots of guns and lots of criminals.  More than we have cops. 
> Aside from wishing, and in the full knowledge that this situation will 
> continue for the indefinite future, what do you think the average 
> law-abiding citizen should do in case of attack by a criminal?
> 
> Yeah, most people don't carry.  Would there be more or less crime if 
> armed criminals KNEW that their intended victims were NOT carrying?

There's less crime in Canada...

....and the criminals all KNOW no one is carrying.

> 
> That's all the effort I'm going to put into an argument that's gone on 
> for decades.
> 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate#/media/File:2019_Gun_ownership_rates_and_gun_homicide_rates_-_developed_world_-_scatter_plot.svg>
>>
>> Do you notice anything about that chart?
> 
> So what?

Really? That's the best you've got?