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On 2024-04-14 20:06, Anonymous wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>> Chris wrote:
>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Java Jive wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything wrong. Ever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> business partner.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two 
>>>>>>>>>>>> civil cases,
>>>>>>>>>>>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist  -  in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> most civilised
>>>>>>>>>>>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing 
>>>>>>>>>>>> someone.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a 
>>>>>>>>>> civil case is a
>>>>>>>>>> clear case of doing something wrong.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No it's not. Anyone can sue anyone for anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And? If the court finds against you you've legally done 
>>>>>>>> something wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not morally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you saying that Trump has never done anything morally wrong? 
>>>>>> You've
>>>>>> completely lost any sense of reality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the very least he cheated on two of his wives. He sexually 
>>>>>> assaulted one
>>>>>> woman (probably more) and he defrauded several banks and the IRS.
>>>>>
>>>>> If he legitimately "knife to the throat" raped women,
>>>>
>>>> What the fuck does that mean?
>>>>
>>>>> then why wasn't
>>>>> he criminally prosecuted?
>>>>
>>>> Like you said yourself the US system doesn't provide justice, 
>>>> especially
>>>> against rich, powerful men. Sexual assault hasn't been treated well 
>>>> by the
>>>> CJS for a long time.
>>>
>>> Well, you probably think Jacqueline Coakley was telling the truth. LOL!
>>>
>>> Forget accusations, most rape _convictions_ are false.
>>
>> Spoken like a true misogynist.
> 
> Go read what happened to Harvey Weinstein.

What exactly—in your humble opinion—"happened" to Harvey Weinstein?

> 
>> Are there any aspects of the law you trust? From here it sounds like 
>> you'd
>> prefer the wild west.
>>
>>>>>>> There are countless laws that literally invent crimes and proscribe
>>>>>>> punishments when there is no concrete harm being done to anyone or
>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Countless, really? Examples.
>>>>
>>>> Notable you didn't answer this.
>>>
>>> All laws that punish mere possession of firearms by peaceable men, 
>>> for one,
>>> if you really want to get into that debate.
>>
>> Why do "peaceable men" need to have a gun? In modern society there's no
>> need for anyone to be carrying guns. It's just boys pretending to be men.
> 
> Because bad and evil men exist. This isn't changed by modern society.
> 
>> When everyone is carrying a gun
> 
> But not everyone carries a gun.

The simple fact is:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate#/media/File:2019_Gun_ownership_rates_and_gun_homicide_rates_-_developed_world_-_scatter_plot.svg>

Deal with it.