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Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: History better than science? Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 16:35:25 -0400 Organization: Eek Lines: 77 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <uvk32f$frse$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: jtem01@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="25514"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:RKLT0Vi3VSAAU/sr0ewGHkXTD+w= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 4275422976C; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 16:35:17 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21026229758 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 16:35:15 -0400 (EDT) id 91A617D128; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 20:35:29 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay.zaccari.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3EF7D11E for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 20:35:29 +0000 (UTC) id 8EA58DC01CB; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 22:35:28 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 22:35:28 +0200 (CEST) Content-Language: en-US X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX18OahTTBrGp8xeAUkQ+N6GAvTIqfz0wXWA= Bytes: 3776 History as a concept, not as a formal area of academic pursuit; is it better than science? Think of it this way: If you know HOW things work, you're not going to be fooled by wild claims. And when it comes to humanity, the past is our model for the future. The present is too close to us. Or we're too close to it. And all the pieces haven't quite fallen into play just yet. Example: If you looked at Truman in his final months in office, you saw a terrible man doing a terrible job. But if we look back on Truman today, he was one of the greatest Presidents that the United States ever had. Two very different perspectives. The topic of pseudo science came up recently, and ultimately the issue with pseudo science is NOT that people lack official credentials, it's that they lack a knowledge/understanding of how things work. So, history? Take the Great Pyramids of Egypt, for example. If you know history then you know that the ancient Egyptians began their monumental tomb constructions with something called a Mastaba. Kinda just this square, or a rectangle, to be more accurate, and they were made of mud brick. Switch from building things out of mud brick to building them out of stone and, omg! Now you have stone structures! The first kinda pyramid, the step pyramid, was really just a bunch of stone mastabas piled on top of each other. And then they got the idea of smoothing out the sides, making a real pyramid! But they failed. So they tried. And they failed again. So they tried a third time and, yes, it worked! Once you grasp all this, is it possible to believe the pyramids were built by aliens? Aliens couldn't get it right the first try? Aliens couldn't even get it right the second try? In fact, the aliens didn't even dare try until they first underwent a lengthy evolutionary process beginning with mud brick? History. Learn a little and the pseudo science is gone. -- https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5