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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 22:23:43 -0700
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On 2024-04-15 22:10, Anonymous wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-04-14 20:06, Anonymous wrote:
>>> Chris wrote:
>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java Jive wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything wrong. Ever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or business partner.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two civil cases,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist  -  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in most civilised
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screwing someone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> civil case is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> clear case of doing something wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No it's not. Anyone can sue anyone for anything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And? If the court finds against you you've legally done 
>>>>>>>>>> something wrong.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not morally.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you saying that Trump has never done anything morally wrong? 
>>>>>>>> You've
>>>>>>>> completely lost any sense of reality.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At the very least he cheated on two of his wives. He sexually 
>>>>>>>> assaulted one
>>>>>>>> woman (probably more) and he defrauded several banks and the IRS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If he legitimately "knife to the throat" raped women,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What the fuck does that mean?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> then why wasn't
>>>>>>> he criminally prosecuted?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like you said yourself the US system doesn't provide justice, 
>>>>>> especially
>>>>>> against rich, powerful men. Sexual assault hasn't been treated 
>>>>>> well by the
>>>>>> CJS for a long time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, you probably think Jacqueline Coakley was telling the truth. 
>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> Forget accusations, most rape _convictions_ are false.
>>>>
>>>> Spoken like a true misogynist.
>>>
>>> Go read what happened to Harvey Weinstein.
>>
>> What exactly—in your humble opinion—"happened" to Harvey Weinstein?
> 
> Why should some slut be allowed to go to the authorities after YEARS
> AND YEARS and cry "rape"?

Why should he be allowed to get away with it even if it's been years?

> 
>>>> Are there any aspects of the law you trust? From here it sounds like 
>>>> you'd
>>>> prefer the wild west.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are countless laws that literally invent crimes and 
>>>>>>>>> proscribe
>>>>>>>>> punishments when there is no concrete harm being done to anyone or
>>>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Countless, really? Examples.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notable you didn't answer this.
>>>>>
>>>>> All laws that punish mere possession of firearms by peaceable men, 
>>>>> for one,
>>>>> if you really want to get into that debate.
>>>>
>>>> Why do "peaceable men" need to have a gun? In modern society there's no
>>>> need for anyone to be carrying guns. It's just boys pretending to be 
>>>> men.
>>>
>>> Because bad and evil men exist. This isn't changed by modern society.
>>>
>>>> When everyone is carrying a gun
>>>
>>> But not everyone carries a gun.
>>
>> The simple fact is:
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate#/media/File:2019_Gun_ownership_rates_and_gun_homicide_rates_-_developed_world_-_scatter_plot.svg>
>>
>> Deal with it.
>>
> 
> Do you think that someone is more dead after having been shot with a
> gun?
> 
> And why the focus on the "developed world"?

Because those countries are similar to the US in terms of wealth, social 
development, etc.


> Mexico has fierce gun laws
> and a much higher murder rate.
And there is a lot more poverty in Mexico.