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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Bad reporting Hazards to Homeless article Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 07:59:49 -0400 Organization: Ph'nglui Mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh Wgah'nagl Fhtagn. Lines: 66 Message-ID: <uvlp7l$u7hv$3@dont-email.me> References: <uve3ca$31lpn$1@dont-email.me> <atropos-BDA78A.12190413042024@news.giganews.com> <20240413162248.000059fe@example.com> <batm1j9c5m41lb8ugd3697qd4q3jc8jt90@4ax.com> <20240414115816.00002f6c@example.com> <atropos-FAF855.12104814042024@news.giganews.com> <17c68b3bbff3bbdb$39147$3340453$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com> <atropos-577C3E.13325215042024@news.giganews.com> <17c6930f58e6628c$138660$3565594$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com> Reply-To: fredp1571@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 13:59:50 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="cc29c015af91339deb5a1978f4072780"; logging-data="990783"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19h8gwJ9D9qXYftl6JDY2gc" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ug1Ld30BuGejNxQQe/PcVLJ5iIg= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <17c6930f58e6628c$138660$3565594$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 4369 On 4/15/24 6:00 PM, trotsky wrote: > On 4/15/24 3:32 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >> In article >> <17c68b3bbff3bbdb$39147$3340453$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com>, >> moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote: >> >>> On 4/14/2024 3:10 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>> In article <20240414115816.00002f6c@example.com>, >>>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 23:20:47 -0700 >>>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 16:22:48 -0400, Rhino >>>>>> <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If the homeless were allowed agency, there would inevitably be >>>>>>> pressure to hold them accountable for their actions. That would >>>>>>> undermine the "progressive" Saviours who are going to fix everything >>>>>>> with vast new and expensive - and almost certainly futile - programs >>>>>>> to help the poor darlings. It's far better to just declare them all >>>>>>> to be helpless captives of their addictions and mental health so >>>>>>> that "help" can be applied in whatever fashion the government and >>>>>>> their agents in the civil service deem necessary. Many many billions >>>>>>> of tax dollars can then be wasted on schemes that won't solve the >>>>>>> problem but WILL enrich the agencies that run the schemes. >>>>>> You're suggesting forcible confinement in mental health facilities >>>>> >>>>> Actually, no, I was not even *thinking* of doing that. >>>> >>>> You may not be, but I am. If you're violently mentally ill, walking >>>> around threatening people and attacking them, you need to be removed >>>> from society. If your illness is such that treatment is ineffective, >>>> then you stay there forever. But there's no reason the rest of us >>>> should >>>> have to run the risk of being attacked, stabbed, set on fire, whatever >>>> your delusions are telling you to do just going about our daily lives. >>> >>> Actually, there is *some* reason we run such risks: we give personal >>> freedom the benefit of doubt under necessarily imperfect diagnoses. >> >> A mentally ill guy diagnosis himself perfectly > > > Could you speak English please? You sound worse than a Trump. > > > > when he violently attacks >> someone. At that point we know something must be done about him that >> involves removing him from society. The only question is whether that >> removal is permanent or not. > He is worse than Trump. Trump is mentally ill. Trump can't help it, he's damaged. This fucker knows exactly what he's doing. -- "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC Bible 25B.G. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ek8kap93bmk0q5w/D%20U%20N%20E%20Part%20II.jpg?dl=0 Gracie, age 6. https://www.dropbox.com/s/0es3xolxka455iw/BetterThingsToDo.jpg?dl=0