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From: "Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Re:Predictive failures
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 13:25:21 -0400
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"Don Y" <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote in message 
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> On 4/16/2024 9:02 AM, Edward Rawde wrote:
>>> Again, the goal is to be an EARLY warning, not an "Oh, Shit!  Kill the
>>> power!!"
>>>
....
> Add CO and heat detectors to the mix and they get *really* confused!
>
>> Better to inform the individual who can get the replacement done when the
>> tenant isn't even home.
>
> So, a WiFi/BT link to <whatever>?  Now the simple smoke detector starts
> suffering from feeping creaturism.  "Download the app..."

No thanks. I have the same view of cameras.
They won't be connecting outbound to a server anywhere in the world.
But the average user does not know that and just wants the pictures on their 
phone.

>
>> The only exceptions, also drawing from other replies in this thread, 
>> might
>> be be temperature sensing,
>> voltage sensing, current sensing, air flow sensing, noise sensing, iron 
>> in
>> oil sensing,
>> and any other kind of sensing which might provide information on 
>> parameters
>> outside or getting close to outside expected range.
>
>> Give that to some software which also knows how long the equipment has 
>> been
>> in use, how often
>> it has been used, what the temperature and humidity was, how long it's 
>> been
>> since the oil was changed,
>> and you might be able to give the operator useful information about when 
>> to
>> schedule specific maintenance.
>
> I have all of those things -- with the exception of knowing which sensory 
> data
> is most pertinent to failure prediction.

That's one reason why you want feedback from people who use your equipment.

>
>
> OTOH, if there is no oil in the gearbox, the equipment isn't going to
> start; if the oil sensor is defective, then *it* needs to be replaced.

Preferably by me purchasing a new sensor and being able to replace it 
myself.

>...