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On 2024-04-15 22:10, Anonymous wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-04-14 20:06, Anonymous wrote:
>>> Chris wrote:
>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java Jive wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything wrong. Ever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or business partner.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two civil cases,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist  -  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in most civilised
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screwing someone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> civil case is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> clear case of doing something wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No it's not. Anyone can sue anyone for anything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And? If the court finds against you you've legally done 
>>>>>>>>>> something wrong.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not morally.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you saying that Trump has never done anything morally wrong? 
>>>>>>>> You've
>>>>>>>> completely lost any sense of reality.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At the very least he cheated on two of his wives. He sexually 
>>>>>>>> assaulted one
>>>>>>>> woman (probably more) and he defrauded several banks and the IRS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If he legitimately "knife to the throat" raped women,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What the fuck does that mean?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> then why wasn't
>>>>>>> he criminally prosecuted?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like you said yourself the US system doesn't provide justice, 
>>>>>> especially
>>>>>> against rich, powerful men. Sexual assault hasn't been treated 
>>>>>> well by the
>>>>>> CJS for a long time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, you probably think Jacqueline Coakley was telling the truth. 
>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> Forget accusations, most rape _convictions_ are false.
>>>>
>>>> Spoken like a true misogynist.
>>>
>>> Go read what happened to Harvey Weinstein.
>>
>> What exactly—in your humble opinion—"happened" to Harvey Weinstein?
> 
> Why should some slut be allowed to go to the authorities after YEARS
> AND YEARS and cry "rape"?


"Some slut"? As in, ONE person?


Found this for you:

'Weinstein has sexually assaulted at least three women. He was convicted 
in 2020 of raping aspiring actress Jessica Mann and sexually assaulting 
Miriam Haley,[3] a production assistant.[38] In 2022, he was convicted 
of raping and sexually assaulting an unnamed woman[4] who later revealed 
herself to be Evgeniya Chernyshova, a model and actor living in Italy.[39]'

Now let's look at the specific cases.

'He was convicted in 2020 of raping aspiring actress Jessica Mann and 
sexually assaulting Miriam Haley':

'The jury found Mr. Weinstein, 67, guilty of raping an aspiring actress, 
Jessica Mann, at a Midtown hotel in 2013, and forcibly performing oral 
sex on a production assistant, Miriam Haley, in his Lower Manhattan 
apartment in 2006.'

'In 2022, he was convicted of raping and sexually assaulting an unnamed 
woman[4] who later revealed herself to be Evgeniya Chernyshova, a model 
and actor living in Italy.[39]'

'Jurors in December convicted Weinstein of one count of rape and two 
counts of sexual assault against the woman who at the trial’s opening in 
October gave a dramatic and emotional account of him arriving uninvited 
at her hotel room during a 2013 film festival in the run-up to the 
Oscars, talking his way in and assaulting her during a film festival.'

So yes; some years had passed, but not the statute of limitations, right?

And this is three separate women, testifying under oath about three 
separate incidents.


And those are just the convictions.



'Women who have accused Weinstein of rape include:

Lysette Anthony told British police in October 2017 that Weinstein raped 
her in the late 1980s at her home in London.[119]

Asia Argento told The New Yorker that in 1997, Weinstein invited her 
into a hotel room, "pulled her skirt up, forced her legs apart, and 
performed oral sex on her as she repeatedly told him to stop".[29]

Wedil David, an actress, said that in 2016, Harvey Weinstein raped her 
in a Beverly Hills hotel room.[55]

Paz de la Huerta said Weinstein had raped her on two separate occasions 
in November and December 2010.[56]

Lucia Evans said, after a business meeting in 2004, Weinstein forced her 
to perform oral sex on him.[29]

Hope Exiner d'Amore, a former employee of Weinstein, said he raped her 
during a business trip to New York in the late 1970s.[48]

Miriam "Mimi" Haleyi, a production crew member, said Weinstein forcibly 
performed oral sex on her in his New York City apartment in 2006 when 
she was in her twenties.[120]

Dominique Huett said Weinstein forcibly performed oral sex on her and 
then carried out another sexual act in front of her.[121]

Natassia Malthe said in 2008, Weinstein barged into her London hotel 
room at night and raped her.[88][122]

Rose McGowan wrote on Twitter that she told the Amazon Studios head Roy 
Price that Weinstein had raped her, but Price ignored this and continued 
collaborating with Weinstein.[123] Price later resigned from his post 
following sexual harassment allegations against him.[124]

Annabella Sciorra said that, in the early 1990s, Weinstein forced 
himself into her apartment, shoved her onto her bed and raped her.[72][125]

Melissa Thompson, a tech entrepreneur, told Sky News Weinstein raped her 
in his hotel room following a business meeting in 2011.[126][127][128]

Wende Walsh, model and aspiring actress said that when she was working 
as a waitress at an Elmwood Avenue bar in the late 1970s, Weinstein 
begged her for a ride and then once inside the car, he sexually 
assaulted her.[84][116]

An unnamed woman told The New Yorker that Weinstein invited her into a 
hotel room on a pretext, and "forced himself on [her] sexually" despite 
her protests.[29]

An anonymous woman who works in the film industry says in a civil claim 
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