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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
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Subject: Re: What Did You Watch? 2024-04-16 (Tuesday)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 18:52:12 -0000 (UTC)
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shawn  <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 15:56:49 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
><ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>>Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (DVR)
>>>"Shang-Chi, the master of weaponry-based Kung Fu, is forced to confront 
>>>his past after being drawn into the Ten Rings organization."  (IMDb)
>>>Part of the Next Generation of the MCU after Infinity Stones war.
>>
>>>Super Trivia!
>>
>>>Simu Liu, when cast as Shang-Chi, was knowledgeable in taekwondo, 
>>>gymnastics, and Wing Chun. For his role as the Master of Kung Fu, Liu 
>>>trained in tai chi, wushu, Muay Thai, pencak silat, Krav Maga, 
>>>jiu-jitsu, boxing, and street fighting.
>>
>>>Simu Liu put on 10 lbs. of muscle to play Shang-Chi.
>>
>>>The filmmakers cite Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000), Kung Fu 
>>>Hustle (2004), Tai Chi Master (1993), the The Matrix (1999) series, 
>>>Donnie Yen's "Ip Man" films and Jackie Chan films as an influence on the 
>>>martial arts action. Michelle Yeoh starred in Crouching Tiger, Hidden 
>>>Dragon.
>>
>>>The producers for the film briefly discussed the idea of Ant-Man 
>>>appearing in the film due to both him and Shang-Chi living in San 
>>>Francisco, but ultimately decided it would derail from the main story.
>>
>>>The bus fight is loosely inspired both by Jackie Chan and Buster Keaton.
>
>Neither of which could do what they are most well known for today due
>to the insurance costs.
>
>>>The 25th film of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
>>
>>>Shang-Chi is the first superhero film with an Asian leading protagonist 
>>>for Marvel Studios.
>>
>>>The final film features over 1,700 visual effects shots.
>>
>>>Although there were many opportunities in the screenplay, the Wilhelm 
>>>Scream was not used in this film for a falling or injured character.
>>
>>Pretend you heard it from me when you mentioned the number of effects
>>shots. How many are there in a Jackie Chan movie fight scene? That would
>>be none whatsoever. What's the point in learning how to fight in so many
>>styles when it's just going to be a special effect?
>>
>>You almost tempted me.
>
>SHANG-CHI was an enjoyable movie. Sure it didn't have the sorts of
>practical effects that Jackie Chan is known for but then few movies
>today go for real life effects over CGI. 
>
>What gets me about so many fight scenes in today's movies is how they
>do constant quick cuts to hide the lack of fighting ability. Jackie
>Chan said it himself when talking about filming fight scenes when he
>said that you need to see the punch/kick being delivered and the
>follow through. So you see the guy getting punched and then him
>staggering from the hit. That way you feel that it really happened
>instead of a quick cut to a different angle to hide the poor skills of
>the actors.

You're right. It's not entertaining and that may be part of the
motivation for doing them.

Quick cuts prevent the audience from seeing the action.  I've been
complaining about this for years. It was the main reason I despised
Quantum of Solice (2008), intended to book-end Casino Royale (2006),
but a different director and incompatible style. The movie must have set
a record at the time for shortest average shot length during the big set
pieces. I sat there in theater, slack jawed, because I could not follow
what was going on.